Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/05/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search](i) OK Bob, point taken. Title changed (ii) Gerry I must get to it. What I was thinking about - and trying to get a discussion going on - was this: I was looking back at AA, Weston, Blakemore etc, who all had marvelous printers or who created their own great prints. I have bought a number of books over the years on digital printing by various authors, with varying reputations, but none seem to get near the abilities of the classic printers. Is it the medium? Is it possible to achieve the same sort of results? And if it is possible whose books would LUGers recommend that I look at? Peter On 04/05/2015 14:24, Gerry Walden wrote: > The upcoming Photo London event features platinum prints from the > ?Genesis? series by Salgado.Personally, I don?t care how the main > exhibition prints were made, for me his work and his whole ethos is > without equal and far above anything I can (or anyone on this list) > produce. > > Gerry > > Gerry Walden > 023 8046 3076 > >> On 3 May 2015, at 17:56, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: >> >> With Salgado, from what I have read it is a combination of who and what. >> He (and/or assistants) work on the digital file to taste, have it >> written to a 35mm or larger film negative and printed in the darkroom on >> silver paper. In addition, as Jayanand noted, I have read that the >> Genesis exhibition prints were inkjet. Somewhere in the mix I think >> platinum/palladium contact prints were made too for collectors. >> >> Ken >> >> On 5/3/2015 9:16 AM, Peter Dzwig wrote: >>> I meant the guy who does the printing, not the Epson or Hp or whatever >>> .... ;-) >>> >>> On 03/05/2015 02:12, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote: >>>> I do not think it depends on the printer, but the guy doing his >>>> processing - at least Genesis was totally digital, if I am not >>>> mistaken. Pushing the Shadows and the Highlights sliders to 100% each >>>> will get you started in the right direction! :-) Seriously, though, >>>> that sort of overwrought drama is easily possible with Silver Efex Pro, >>>> at least. >>>> >>>> A large part of the advantage that someone like Salgado has over you >>>> and me is access - some of the polar photographs in Genesis are taken >>>> in places that are strictly off limits for mere mortals. The other >>>> advantage is the ability to hang around as long as it takes to get the >>>> shot - but that is the difference between a top pro and an amateur... >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Jayanand >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On 03-May-2015, at 04:51, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I wonder about that too, Bob. I guess it may be due to the printers. >>>>> >>>>> So a question to LUGers, who is the best printer out there at the >>>>> moment? >>>>> Obviously it depends on taste to some degreee, but I have been looking >>>>> back at >>>>> AA, HCB and others and I can't find a similar depth in modern digital >>>>> stuff by >>>>> and large. >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> Peter >>>>> >>>>>> On 02/05/2015 16:17, Robert Baron wrote: >>>>>> What you all say about his images and prints is valid for discussion, >>>>>> but I >>>>>> still can't figure out how he (or people working for him) can get >>>>>> such wide >>>>>> tonal ranges and I can't. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is it an optical illusion? >>>>>> >>>>>> --Bob >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:17 AM, Nathan Wajsman <nwajsman at >>>>>>> gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I saw Genesis in Barcelona in January together with Lluis and my >>>>>>> friend >>>>>>> Lars, and we too were somewhat disappointed. Partly there was the >>>>>>> issue of >>>>>>> the prints being overdone, but my main gripe was the lack of a >>>>>>> coherent >>>>>>> theme?the exhibition is simply too big?and the distance to his >>>>>>> subjects. In >>>>>>> many cases, his approach to the people in the photographs is that of >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> wildlife photographer. Compared to other major bodies of work by >>>>>>> Salgado, >>>>>>> like ?Workers?, I found this one below his usual standard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Nathan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator >>>>>>> >>>>>>> YNWA >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 02 May 2015, at 07:31, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I haven?t seen the film, nor had I heard of it until now but I did >>>>>>>> see >>>>>>> the ?Genesis? show in Barcelona last year and was simply stunned by >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> imagery and quality of the printing. In my eyes the man is probably >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> the best living photographer at the moment for so many reasons, and >>>>>>> I saw >>>>>>> gazing at prints in sheer awe of his work. >>>>>>>> Gerry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gerry Walden >>>>>>>> 023 8046 3076 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2 May 2015, at 04:27, Robert Baron <robertbaron1 at gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> His flair for the dramatic is discussed in this long piece >>>>>>>>> published in >>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>> Guardian in 2000: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2000/jun/10/photography.art >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't think a DVD of Salt of the Earth is available yet but I'd >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> surprised if it didn't come out in due time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ====On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj < >>>>>>> jayanand at gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like to buy the DVD. I went to his "Genesis" show in >>>>>>>>> London a >>>>>>>>>> couple of years ago, and was frankly underwhelmed by the prints - >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>> were >>>>>>>>>> totally over processed, and in my view, mangled beyond reason for >>>>>>> maximum >>>>>>>>>> drama. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> =========================================================== >>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- =========================================================== Dr Peter Dzwig