Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/05/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Silent is only (so far) on the A7s from my iPad Sonny Carter > On May 24, 2015, at 11:06 PM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote: > > That's correct, Gene. There is no physical shutter on the Sony A7 series. > Thus the lag is imperceptible. Furthermore, in silent mode, the camera > essentially scans the sensor capture, and all is quiet as it does the > trick. > > from my iPad > > Sonny Carter > >> On May 24, 2015, at 10:47 PM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote: >> >> Bob, >> >> That is the same way Live View works with my D4, although the LV Focus is >> far better than your description of the Leica LV. but when taking a >> photo the shutter first closes then opens again to make the photo. This >> is not the same as how it works with EVF cameras, such as the Sony A7 & >> Nikon 1, as I understand it. >> >> gene >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Adler" <rgacpa at gmail.com> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 8:52:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [Leica] New Monochrome results >> >> Hi Ken, >> >> The real issue with live view on the Leica is that it opens the mechanical >> shutter when you start live view. Then, when you depress the shutter >> release button, the Leica closes the mechanical shutter and then fires >> (opens and closes) the shutter. It's a really big lag IMO. And it doubles >> the shutter actuations >> >> Here's my working theories: >> 1. The rangefinder mechanism on MY M240 is amazing. That would be the >> primary reason to get the MM 2 over the MM 1 (the second reason being the >> noticeably smoother shutter: the M9 chassis has a noticeable shutter >> kick). >> The M240's rangefinder is greatly improved over the M9 and has held its >> accuracy for as long as I've owned the camera. It's spot on >> >> HOWEVER.... When I shoot handheld wide open and close, even a slight >> movement by my head will change the focal point, especially on the f/1 and >> f/1.4 50mm lenses and the 75 f/2. So I geek: move my neck back and forth >> while shooting trying to get it right. Especially hard with my moving >> grandkids. Shutter lag simply defeats the accuracy of any type of focusing >> with these apertures at close distance: using the rangefinder really helps >> because of its tiny lag. >> >> 2. With landscapes I tend to do the same thing with my M as I do with my >> larger system. Focus as best I can, through the viewfinder (and sometimes >> live view) and then fine tune by using the image review function where I >> can move the magnified portion around on the screen. With my larger >> system, >> I am looking at the RAW file: with the M I'm looking at the on screen >> jpeg. >> >> Does that make sense? >> Bob >> >> >>> On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: >>> >>> Bob, >>> >>> Here is a Leica-rookie question. I have seen numerous posts about users >>> sending bodies and lenses back to Leica to calibrate, to avoid back and >>> front focus issues. Is this what live view is intended to avoid? I know >>> even my SLR's have focus issues if I don't calibrate the lenses with >>> in-camera software. If there is not an issue with matching bodies and >>> lenses, yes I would prefer to have rangefinder focus (my last Leica long >>> ago was an M3 with a 35mm Summicron, where it was difficult to make a >>> focus >>> error though I succeeded at times). Thx for some enlightenment. >>> >>> Ken >>> >>>> On 5/24/2015 5:29 PM, Bob Adler wrote: >>>> >>>> Honestly I find live view useless as implemented in the M240. Completely >>>> useless because of the unbelievable shutter lag for non-landscape images >>>> and inability to move the magnified area of the view around to check >>>> focus >>>> for landscape work. >>>> >>>> For the decisive moment you will need to anticipate an additional 1/2 >>>> sec >>>> or more in advance. For landscapes you will need to reframe after >>>> focusing. >>>> >>>> Sorry, but I never use live view. But I own no R lenses which it may >>>> actually be useful for per others' experiences I have read. >>>> Best, >>>> Bob-The -Grump >>>> >>>> Bob Adler >>>> Robert Adler Photography >>>> www.robertadlerphotography.com >>>> >>>> On May 24, 2015, at 12:32 PM, George Lottermoser < >>>>> george.imagist at icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Live view certainly is what keeps me dreaming about the "upgrade;" >>>>> while feeling quite satisfied with the "high ISO" of the MM I. >>>>> >>>>> a note off the iPad, George >>>>> >>>>> On May 24, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at >>>>> earthlink.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The significant upgrade is live view. >>>>>> >>>>>> Doug Herr >>>>>> Birdman of Sacramento >>>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >>>>>> http://doug-herr.fineartamerica.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> >>>>>>> Sent: May 24, 2015 8:51 AM >>>>>>> To: Douglas Nygren <douglasnygren at yahoo.com>, Leica Users Group < >>>>>>> lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New Monochrome results >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good writeup here by Erwin Puts. Doesn't seem to be worth the $$... >>>>>>> Better >>>>>>> value with the MM-I >>>>>>> http://www.imx.nl/photo/leica/camera/styled-50/ >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> -- >> Bob Adler >> www.robertadlerphotography.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information