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Subject: [Leica] HDRitis?
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:18:33 -0700
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> On Aug 5, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There are a few people in my camera club that try HDR, too.  In my 
> opinion, they overdo it.  I have rarely seen an HDR that I think looks 
> good.  Of course, maybe there are some that look good and the person does 
> not admit to using HDR.  In those cases, I would say they did it right.
> 
> I have thought a good deal about this and I wonder if the reason it looks 
> "wrong" to experienced photographers is because we have come up from film, 
> and with film we had certain expectations as to what was possible and what 
> was not.  I am talking slide film for me.  I expected shadows to be 
> blocked up if I did not burn out the highlights.  I had a fairly limited 
> dynamic range.
> 
> This film look is engrained in our minds.  When some new technique like 
> HDR comes along, it looks wrong.  Not "natural" meaning not what film 
> could accomplish.  I have tried a few in the past, and have tried a few 
> more now that Lightroom has HDR built in.  did not like the earlier 
> attempts, but I do not mind what LR is kicking out.  Maybe because they 
> use RAW files?  Not sure.  And maybe because I don't push it much.
> 
> I have also found out that as digital cameras have gotten better, 
> especially those with the Sony sensors, they have so much dynamic range 
> that I can get about everything I want from a single well exposed image.  
> When I hear those guys with their autobracketing set to fire off 5 shots 
> every time, I wonder about their abilities as a photographer vs their 
> abilities as a computer technician.  Where does their skill lie?  I told 
> one once that if he knew how to expose one frame he could save himself a 
> lot of time. I don't think he appreciated my comment.
> 
> I think those who push it beyond what is natural are claiming artistic 
> freedom.  Ansel Adam's idea that the print is the negative is the score 
> and the print is the performance.  But I don't like their performance.
> 
> I think Jeffery has it right:  "Sort of like how artists feel about Thomas 
> Kinkade".  Well stated.


I think that anything that looks like HDR, is by definition, too much, 
(whether it is or not). My analogy, beautiful women, if they are truly 
beautiful they don?t need makeup, at least makeup should never !  be visible.


steve




> 
> Aram
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Lew Schwartz" <lew1716 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 2:03 PM
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: [Leica] HDRitis?
> 
>> I'm checking out a few camera clubs in the vicinity of my new home and I'm
>> distresed by what I see as the overuse of the hdr look. Maybe it's old
>> fogey me, but I find it nightmarish & oppressive.  How's it look to the 
>> LUG
>> dudes?
>> 
> 
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In reply to: Message from lew1716 at gmail.com (Lew Schwartz) ([Leica] HDRitis?)
Message from leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram Langhans) ([Leica] HDRitis?)