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Subject: [Leica] IMGS: Kodachromes from Acal
From: jhnichols at lighttube.net (Jim Nichols)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:22:22 -0600
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I've enjoyed listening to the reminiscing, but you are discussing the 
second or third version of Kodachrome.  Back in 1952-54, it was just 
called Kodachrome, and rated at ASA 10 (there was also a version for 
artificial light).  The best low-light images required blue flashbulbs.  
Here is one of those:

http://www.gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Cigar+Box/Donna02sm+53.jpg.html

Jim Nichols
Tullahoma, TN USA

On 1/25/2016 5:48 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> Yes, I do see the difference in the actual slides.  For many years,
> photographers chose their slide films based on what they were shooting and
> what color palette and film speed and grain structure they could get with
> certain films.  I used Kodachrome almost exclusively up until Kodak turned
> the processing over to Qualex.  Qualex ruined Kodachrome processing and
> routinely sent me slides contaminated with chemical splotches, cut between
> the frames, and severely over or under developed.  I gave up, bought a Jobo
> processor and switched to all E-6 films.  I came to like some of them -
> Provia and Astia in particular - but none of them ever equaled my old
> Kodachrome 64 :-(  Gone but not forgotten!!
>
> Tina
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:42 PM, lluisripollphotography <
> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Tina,
>>
>> If you look at the original slides or you project them, do you appreciate
>> such tonal differences? in my opinion the tonal range on the original
>> slides is better than the results when its scanned. I agree with you that
>> Velvia made great tones for the landscapes and Kodachrome for the skin
>> tones, when I scan I have similar problems and with Ektachrome the tonal
>> range trend to blue.
>>
>> Lluis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> El 26 gen 2016, a les 0:31, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> va
>> escriure:
>>> Thanks, Lluis.  I think that is a characteristic of Kodachrome.  I've
>>> always loved the skin tones that you get with Kodachrome, but I prefer
>>> Velvia for landscapes.  Could that be it?
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:00 PM, lluisripollphotography <
>>> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tina,
>>>>
>>>> For me this one is an example of cold colors, I don?t find the words to
>>>> define why they look for me more unreal than the pictures with warm
>> colors
>>>> <http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/162411109>
>>>>
>>>> and this one of warm colors, in my opinion these colors looks much more
>>>> natural and rich as they are
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/162410997>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Lluis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> El 25 gen 2016, a les 23:49, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> va
>>>> escriure:
>>>>> Can you give me an example of the cold colors not working?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tina
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 4:54 PM, lluisripollphotography <
>>>>> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tina,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Already commented, but I insist. The images with warm colors, as well
>>>>>> those of Faviana, works perfect in the scanning process, the colors
>>>> look as
>>>>>> they are, but on the images with cold colors, green or light blue,
>>>> reflect
>>>>>> unreal colors, If in the same image are warm and cold colors and the
>>>> warm
>>>>>> ones has an important proportion on the global image the overall color
>>>> of
>>>>>> the image is good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the question we was talking yesterday, why? It looks as the
>>>>>> scanner make a wrong reading of white balance with cold colors?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone explain this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> El 24 gen 2016, a les 0:20, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> va
>>>>>> escriure:
>>>>>>> PESO:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A few more Kodachromes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/2016&page=3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> C&C greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tina
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Tina Manley
>>>>>>> http://
>>>>>>> <
>> http://t.sidekickopen35.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJN7t5XYgfmKYPW4WzBHl3Mx_9dW3LqWkM56dQ1Jf7P8b5b02?t=http%3A%2F%2Ftina-manley.artistwebsites.com%2F&si=6038418186567680&pi=540dc834-a12f-44bb-d194-a3440df02c0a
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tina Manley
>>>>> http://
>>>>> <
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>>> --
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