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Subject: [Leica] M7 body coming - Peter
From: jackyaus at gmail.com (Jacky aus)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:48:44 +1100
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Hi Gerry,

Congratulate and appreciate very much you coming back to classic world of
film ?? I imagine you will experience the world of another kind in this
digital era?.. now, perhaps, we can distinguish the wonderful difference or
personal preference between digital or film options?? many years ago, we
debate a lot here about which ways we should go for better results or art
of photography ?

Now, I am so glad that some photography lovers try to explore and reverse
back to the film world like travelling in the time tunnel ?.

My good friend, recently, spends hours and hours to scan his old films and
find lots and lots of excitement in the process, not the digital, but the
film images that he have taken and captured so many years ago with his
classic camera?

I hope you experience this unique world of film which the young generation
never has a clue?. For some people, film has become part of photography
history running into museum shelf ?

Looking forwards to enjoy your scan outcome created by film? that may be
why Leica is continuing its legendary vision through production of film
camera ?.

I still hope and wish that film world can survive at least in our
generation or more?..

Cheers,

Jacky

On 15 March 2016 at 08:09, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> wrote:

> I plan to do my own scanning Peter. I am getting good results from my
> Plustek so just got to get some images now!
>
> Gerry
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 14 Mar 2016, at 20:58, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Try
> http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Fuji-Black-and-White-Film/catalogue/186/
> >
> > BTW I looked at Peak Imaging who have a very high reputation, but even
> they will
> > only scan to JPEG, although some are very high resolution (40+MB)
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >> On 14/03/2016 14:39, Gerry Walden wrote:
> >> I had an interesting chat with the guy who runs the lab I will use for
> my b&w film processing today. We chatted about the best film to use, and
> his opinion was that Fuji Neopan 400CN is the best now. he said it is easy
> for them to process as it runs through the C41 chemistry, and scans
> beautifully. I am currently trying to get hold of some, and chatting to
> Fuji. I will keep you posted.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >>
> >>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 11:53, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here develop and scan to CD is about ?10 (?12.50) which is in addition
> to film
> >>> costs of course. Ilford charge extra.
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>>> On 13/03/2016 23:35, lluisripollphotography wrote:
> >>>> Peter,
> >>>>
> >>>> I have the same bad experience, once I have ordered a scanned film,
> they gave me Tiff files but very bad scans, at this moment, except if you
> go to a high pro level the best is you scan yourself your negs and also
> develop, here a professional developing cost some more than 10? per film
> and I?m not sure how good is.
> >>>>
> >>>> Lluis
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> El 13 mar? 2016, a les 23:59, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at 
> >>>>> summaventures.com>
> va escriure:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I tend to agree but if you want C-41 you are quite
> limited...basically to
> >>>>> Ilford, although there is some BW400CN still around on the shelves.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I can inject a word of caution: watch the processing workflow. A
> lot of these
> >>>>> guys say that they will provide TIFFs or hi-res JPEGs. In my humble
> experience.
> >>>>> I have processed four films recently, two through my (formerly
> excellent) local
> >>>>> dev shop and two by Ilford.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Neither came back as I requested as High Res TIFFs. Both the dev
> shop and Ilford
> >>>>> returned scanned JPEGs. In the case of the dev shop the girls who
> now run it
> >>>>> didn't seem to know what a TIFF was; to them developing was just a
> piece of
> >>>>> workflow. Pop in the film at one end of the scanner and out pops a
> JPEG. Trouble
> >>>>> was that they were only 1M.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Ilford ones at least were 3. -5 M, but goodness knows what the
> variation
> >>>>> signifies or how the decision was made.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In short you need to find someone you can trust and build that
> relationship.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But don't let that put you off film. It is still a brilliant medium.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Peter
> >>>>>
> >>>>> PS From conversations I understand that some of the processing
> machine
> >>>>> manufacturers no longer supply machines that will do other than
> supply JPEGs
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 13/03/2016 13:31, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Gerry,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Permit me to jump in?while film selection is not as good as 20
> years ago, in B&W I have bought some of the same films I used back before
> going digital, such as Tri-X, Fuji Acros, and the Ilford films.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Nathan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> >>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> >>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> >>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> >>>>>> YNWA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 10:01, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lluis
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> your comments are of great interest. Now I have made the decision
> to shoot film again for some of my work I cannot wait to get started. I am
> a little out of touch with modern films, so which do you use?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 02:15, lluisripollphotography <
> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Good new Gerry!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I?m shooting again film too, I have several films to develop, I?m
> a little disappointed with all these problems with sensors etc? , I have
> followed the comments on the LFI about the sensor problems and one of the
> members has said "If you want "real" B&W, pick up an earlier M Leica or any
> other film camera and shoot film.?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As you say, we are trained for this!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>> Lluis
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> El 12 mar? 2016, a les 17:21, Gerry Walden <
> gerry.walden at icloud.com> va escriure:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I ordered a used M7 today, and I am looking forward to getting
> back to film after 13 or 14 years. I bought it mainly as a backup in case
> anything goes wrong with my M9, but having said that i shot film for around
> 40+ years from the age of 14 and it will be good to play with it again.
> Back to the world of exploring which film is best handled by the processors
> I guess because i don't want to get into the processing side of life, which
> I never did enjoy. it should arrive on Tuesday complete with an 'Artisan'
> half-case and a Leicatime strap - such class!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
> >>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com
> >>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
> >>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> ===========================================================
> >>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig
> >>>>>
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> >>>
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