Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2016/03/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I?ve got film in the freezer, and several film cameras I still love. Now I?m looking forward to some discussion about what it is I can get using film I cannot get using digits. Who wants to start the list of special positives of film use? I?ll nominate the physical experience: No camera feels as good in use as my M4 and M6. Ric Carter > On Mar 15, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Jacky aus <jackyaus at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Gerry, > > Congratulate and appreciate very much you coming back to classic world of > film ?? I imagine you will experience the world of another kind in this > digital era?.. now, perhaps, we can distinguish the wonderful difference or > personal preference between digital or film options?? many years ago, we > debate a lot here about which ways we should go for better results or art > of photography ? > > Now, I am so glad that some photography lovers try to explore and reverse > back to the film world like travelling in the time tunnel ?. > > My good friend, recently, spends hours and hours to scan his old films and > find lots and lots of excitement in the process, not the digital, but the > film images that he have taken and captured so many years ago with his > classic camera? > > I hope you experience this unique world of film which the young generation > never has a clue?. For some people, film has become part of photography > history running into museum shelf ? > > Looking forwards to enjoy your scan outcome created by film? that may be > why Leica is continuing its legendary vision through production of film > camera ?. > > I still hope and wish that film world can survive at least in our > generation or more?.. > > Cheers, > > Jacky > > On 15 March 2016 at 08:09, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> wrote: > >> I plan to do my own scanning Peter. I am getting good results from my >> Plustek so just got to get some images now! >> >> Gerry >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 20:58, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Try >> http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Fuji-Black-and-White-Film/catalogue/186/ >>> >>> BTW I looked at Peak Imaging who have a very high reputation, but even >> they will >>> only scan to JPEG, although some are very high resolution (40+MB) >>> >>> Peter >>> >>>> On 14/03/2016 14:39, Gerry Walden wrote: >>>> I had an interesting chat with the guy who runs the lab I will use for >> my b&w film processing today. We chatted about the best film to use, and >> his opinion was that Fuji Neopan 400CN is the best now. he said it is easy >> for them to process as it runs through the C41 chemistry, and scans >> beautifully. I am currently trying to get hold of some, and chatting to >> Fuji. I will keep you posted. >>>> >>>> Gerry >>>> >>>>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 11:53, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Here develop and scan to CD is about ?10 (?12.50) which is in addition >> to film >>>>> costs of course. Ilford charge extra. >>>>> >>>>> Peter >>>>> >>>>>> On 13/03/2016 23:35, lluisripollphotography wrote: >>>>>> Peter, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have the same bad experience, once I have ordered a scanned film, >> they gave me Tiff files but very bad scans, at this moment, except if you >> go to a high pro level the best is you scan yourself your negs and also >> develop, here a professional developing cost some more than 10? per film >> and I?m not sure how good is. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lluis >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> El 13 mar? 2016, a les 23:59, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at >>>>>>> summaventures.com> >> va escriure: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tend to agree but if you want C-41 you are quite >> limited...basically to >>>>>>> Ilford, although there is some BW400CN still around on the shelves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I can inject a word of caution: watch the processing workflow. A >> lot of these >>>>>>> guys say that they will provide TIFFs or hi-res JPEGs. In my humble >> experience. >>>>>>> I have processed four films recently, two through my (formerly >> excellent) local >>>>>>> dev shop and two by Ilford. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Neither came back as I requested as High Res TIFFs. Both the dev >> shop and Ilford >>>>>>> returned scanned JPEGs. In the case of the dev shop the girls who >> now run it >>>>>>> didn't seem to know what a TIFF was; to them developing was just a >> piece of >>>>>>> workflow. Pop in the film at one end of the scanner and out pops a >> JPEG. Trouble >>>>>>> was that they were only 1M. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Ilford ones at least were 3. -5 M, but goodness knows what the >> variation >>>>>>> signifies or how the decision was made. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In short you need to find someone you can trust and build that >> relationship. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But don't let that put you off film. It is still a brilliant medium. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PS From conversations I understand that some of the processing >> machine >>>>>>> manufacturers no longer supply machines that will do other than >> supply JPEGs >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 13/03/2016 13:31, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Gerry, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Permit me to jump in?while film selection is not as good as 20 >> years ago, in B&W I have bought some of the same films I used back before >> going digital, such as Tri-X, Fuji Acros, and the Ilford films. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Nathan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> >>>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu >>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws < >> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ < >> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/> >>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator < >> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator> >>>>>>>> YNWA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 10:01, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lluis >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> your comments are of great interest. Now I have made the decision >> to shoot film again for some of my work I cannot wait to get started. I am >> a little out of touch with modern films, so which do you use? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gerry >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 02:15, lluisripollphotography < >> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Good new Gerry! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I?m shooting again film too, I have several films to develop, I?m >> a little disappointed with all these problems with sensors etc? , I have >> followed the comments on the LFI about the sensor problems and one of the >> members has said "If you want "real" B&W, pick up an earlier M Leica or >> any >> other film camera and shoot film.? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As you say, we are trained for this! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Lluis >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> El 12 mar? 2016, a les 17:21, Gerry Walden < >> gerry.walden at icloud.com> va escriure: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I ordered a used M7 today, and I am looking forward to getting >> back to film after 13 or 14 years. I bought it mainly as a backup in case >> anything goes wrong with my M9, but having said that i shot film for >> around >> 40+ years from the age of 14 and it will be good to play with it again. >> Back to the world of exploring which film is best handled by the >> processors >> I guess because i don't want to get into the processing side of life, >> which >> I never did enjoy. it should arrive on Tuesday complete with an 'Artisan' >> half-case and a Leicatime strap - such class! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gerry >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS >>>>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com >>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or >>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> =========================================================== >>>>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> =========================================================== >>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> -- >>> >>> =========================================================== >>> Dr Peter Dzwig >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information