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Subject: [Leica] Nik software
From: kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney)
Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2016 18:55:06 -0500
References: <819FDAED-BA22-4D02-A70C-F9D2FE398F89@frozenlight.eu> <5b2fa52d-1f03-1d62-7c04-8719b987c174@lighttube.net> <A6F2B23D-A6DC-4553-A618-D2F79153BD3D@frozenlight.eu> <c7dc07f4-fd53-34a3-b641-97bde8ca349b@lighttube.net> <F40E7DAF-F12F-4ACC-A080-6BC242127E0E@frozenlight.eu> <2gtg1t00r07g8Sg01gthKB>

I'll second that.  Steve Barbour mentioned Vincent Versace's book on b&w 
conversion ("From Oz to Kansas"), so I bought it and the video.  It 
contains numerous b&w conversion techiques for PS, but...the best part 
was suggestions on using SEP Pro, of which I believe he was one of the 
developers.  I use SEP as a smart object in PS, so if desired I can go 
back and change things.  It is also a LR plug-in.

Ken


On 6/4/2016 11:52 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
> Nathan,
> There is no comparison between the Nik tools and what is available in
> Lightroom, which IMHO, is basic in comparison. Silver Efex Pro is an
> integral part of my B&W workflow, as are Color Efex Pro and Viveza for
> other workflow. Then, again, I have been using these tools for a very long
> time, since Nik first introduced them in Nikon's Capture RAW converters
> (before Nik started selling them as stand alone tools), in fact, so I am
> quite conversant with all that can be done. It is not a shallow learning
> curve, but rather a steep one, and just the advantage of being able to work
> on a small part of the frame at a time, via what are called "Control
> Points", itself is worth the price you pay in learning to use the suite
> properly. I am very comfortable with using this software, mainly because
> the slog is behind me, whether you find it worthwhile or not is something
> only you can decide. My advice would be to give it a fair go before
> deciding one way or another.
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jim. But that is what I do in LR itself too, so I fail to see the
>> advantage of the extra software (and the additional image file that
>> results).
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>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
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>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>> YNWA
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>>> On 04 Jun 2016, at 07:23, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:
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>>> I seldom use one of their presets.  I work with the sliders and menu
>> choices until I find something I like, and then come back to that recipe 
>> as
>> a starting point for the next image.
>>> Jim Nichols
>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>
>>> On 6/4/2016 12:16 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>> I stand correct. Tried Silver Efex Pro on an image, using Fuji Acros as
>> the preset. Still not sure I like it. When I compare the original image
>> with the Silver Efex image, the latter seems harsh. Will have to play some
>> more, I guess.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> <
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu/ <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>>
>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/ <http://www.greatpix.eu/>>
>> www.greatpix.eu <http://www.greatpix.eu/>
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/><http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>>
>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator> <
>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>>
>>>> YNWA
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>>>>> On 04 Jun 2016, at 06:55, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nathan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Analog Efex Pro2 is not the same as Silver Efex Pro2.  Look around for
>> Silver Efex Pro2.exe.
>>>>> Jim Nichols
>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/3/2016 11:51 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>>> I have downloaded the Nik suite from Google and have tried out the
>> Silver Efex Pro (now called Analog Efex Pro).
>>>>>> Am I the only one who finds the resulting images to have an
>> over-processed, over-sharpened look to them? I did not tweak any settings,
>> just went with the automatic ones.
>>>>>> I think I prefer my own adjustments in LR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will play with it some more, and try Dfine as well for noise
>> removal, but I suspect I will end up uninstalling this software.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>> YNWA
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