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Subject: [Leica] Nik software
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:36:55 +0530
References: <819FDAED-BA22-4D02-A70C-F9D2FE398F89@frozenlight.eu> <5b2fa52d-1f03-1d62-7c04-8719b987c174@lighttube.net> <A6F2B23D-A6DC-4553-A618-D2F79153BD3D@frozenlight.eu> <c7dc07f4-fd53-34a3-b641-97bde8ca349b@lighttube.net> <F40E7DAF-F12F-4ACC-A080-6BC242127E0E@frozenlight.eu> <cf34d09c-9d1f-5d8d-e74e-cd7d25208623@cox.net> <081b1552-e730-ab78-bb9b-f844f64a3652@summaventures.com>

Peter,
These are excellent:

http://www.luminescentphoto.com/blog/eshop/nik-collection/

Cheers
Jayanand

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:20 AM, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
wrote:

> I'd add that I am beginning to use it, but find some of the film simulation
> modes poor, eg Tri-X 400, BW400CN.
>
> I have a sort of so-so feeling about it: that if I understood it better I
> would
> get results closer to what I am after. Perhaps that means it's time for
> some
> reading! I don't find the online help answers my questions. Does anyone
> have any
> SEP-specific recommendations in addition to Versace's book?
>
> Peter
>
> On 05/06/2016 00:55, Ken Carney wrote:
> > I'll second that.  Steve Barbour mentioned Vincent Versace's book on b&w
> > conversion ("From Oz to Kansas"), so I bought it and the video.  It
> contains
> > numerous b&w conversion techiques for PS, but...the best part was
> suggestions on
> > using SEP Pro, of which I believe he was one of the developers.  I use
> SEP as a
> > smart object in PS, so if desired I can go back and change things.  It
> is also a
> > LR plug-in.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > On 6/4/2016 11:52 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
> >> Nathan,
> >> There is no comparison between the Nik tools and what is available in
> >> Lightroom, which IMHO, is basic in comparison. Silver Efex Pro is an
> >> integral part of my B&W workflow, as are Color Efex Pro and Viveza for
> >> other workflow. Then, again, I have been using these tools for a very
> long
> >> time, since Nik first introduced them in Nikon's Capture RAW converters
> >> (before Nik started selling them as stand alone tools), in fact, so I am
> >> quite conversant with all that can be done. It is not a shallow learning
> >> curve, but rather a steep one, and just the advantage of being able to
> work
> >> on a small part of the frame at a time, via what are called "Control
> >> Points", itself is worth the price you pay in learning to use the suite
> >> properly. I am very comfortable with using this software, mainly because
> >> the slog is behind me, whether you find it worthwhile or not is
> something
> >> only you can decide. My advice would be to give it a fair go before
> >> deciding one way or another.
> >> Cheers
> >> Jayanand
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
> >> frozenlight.eu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Jim. But that is what I do in LR itself too, so I fail to see
> the
> >>> advantage of the extra software (and the additional image file that
> >>> results).
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Nathan
> >>>
> >>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>> Alicante, Spain
> >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> >>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> >>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> >>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> >>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> >>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> >>> YNWA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 04 Jun 2016, at 07:23, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I seldom use one of their presets.  I work with the sliders and menu
> >>> choices until I find something I like, and then come back to that
> recipe as
> >>> a starting point for the next image.
> >>>> Jim Nichols
> >>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/4/2016 12:16 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> >>>>> I stand correct. Tried Silver Efex Pro on an image, using Fuji Acros
> as
> >>> the preset. Still not sure I like it. When I compare the original image
> >>> with the Silver Efex image, the latter seems harsh. Will have to play
> some
> >>> more, I guess.
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Nathan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/> <
> >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu/ <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>>
> >>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/ <http://www.greatpix.eu/>>
> >>> www.greatpix.eu <http://www.greatpix.eu/>
> >>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> >>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> >>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>>Blog:
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> >>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/><
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
> >>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>>
> >>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> >>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator> <
> >>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> >>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>>
> >>>>> YNWA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 04 Jun 2016, at 06:55, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nathan,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Analog Efex Pro2 is not the same as Silver Efex Pro2.  Look around
> for
> >>> Silver Efex Pro2.exe.
> >>>>>> Jim Nichols
> >>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 6/3/2016 11:51 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> >>>>>>> I have downloaded the Nik suite from Google and have tried out the
> >>> Silver Efex Pro (now called Analog Efex Pro).
> >>>>>>> Am I the only one who finds the resulting images to have an
> >>> over-processed, over-sharpened look to them? I did not tweak any
> settings,
> >>> just went with the automatic ones.
> >>>>>>> I think I prefer my own adjustments in LR.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I will play with it some more, and try Dfine as well for noise
> >>> removal, but I suspect I will end up uninstalling this software.
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>> Nathan
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> >>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> >>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> >>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog:
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> >>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> >>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> >>> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> >>>>>>> YNWA
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> ===========================================================
> Dr Peter Dzwig
>
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Replies: Reply from pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) ([Leica] Nik software)
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Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Nik software)
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Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Nik software)
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