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Subject: [Leica] Seven decades of classic photography from the Observer
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 07:12:18 +0100
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I think you are on to something. In addition, film, especially medium format 
film, sometimes yields a tonality which is quite unique to the medium.

Cheers,
Nathan

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> On 08 Dec 2016, at 01:25, Lluis Ripoll Photography <lluisripollphotography 
> at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Beside the charme of the film nuances, one of the things that in my 
> opinion makes a difference is the concept of ?perfection?, generally the 
> digital offers more perfection and more information about the image, film 
> looks like it is hiding a little bit of something. I think that a film 
> picture requires more of our attention looking at it than a digital where 
> everything is so evident. The fact of hide something, invite us to ask 
> more questions, I don?t remember which great photographer has said that a 
> good picture is the one that ask us a question. The lack of the evident 
> perfection give to the film an special ?sensual? attraction?. at least is 
> what I think.
> Lluis
> 
> 
> 
>> El 8 des 2016, a les 1:00, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> va 
>> escriure:
>> 
>> I wonder if the fact that you can't take as many photos with film as you 
>> can
>> with digital makes you concentrate more on what you are photographing and 
>> how
>> you do it. That in turn may lead to different styles of photography, as
>> different from 35mm film as 35mm is from wetplate.
>> 
>> An example might be that a lot of digital images are much less likely to 
>> be
>> posed; more "snaps" (I am not talking about LUGers shots here). I 
>> recently went
>> to see the Vivien Maier exhibition "Chroniques Am?ricains" in France. I 
>> was very
>> much struck by the picture taken in Florida of a woman in a ball gown 
>> walking
>> towards a big fifties car (it's about halfway down this page:
>> http://www.widewalls.ch/artist/vivian-maier/ ). It could only be film: the
>> blurring, the depth of shadow, the opportunism all say "film" to me.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> On 07/12/2016 19:29, Lluis Ripoll Photography wrote:
>>> Peter,
>>> 
>>> I?ve started on digital in 2009. I think it not has influenced on my 
>>> work, maybe I?ve increased the night work, for me one of the things 
>>> producing a change on my work has been that the ?click? is much more 
>>> quite on a classical M than on a digital, the recent last M?s M240, 246 
>>> ? are much more quite than the M9 or the first Monochrom
>>> 
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 7 des 2016, a les 20:13, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>>> va escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> Both,
>>>> 
>>>> beautiful images.
>>>> 
>>>> Luis, is 2004 when you went digital? Is it just me or is it that 
>>>> digital has
>>>> completely changed styles of photography? I sometimes feel as if film 
>>>> yields a
>>>> different type of image because of the difference in working with it. 
>>>> Does
>>>> anyone agree?
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> On 06/12/2016 00:38, Lluis Ripoll Photography wrote:
>>>>> Gerry,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you very much for sharing these masterpieces I will be never 
>>>>> tired to look at. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I see these I?m more convinced that the perfection of the digital 
>>>>> images has spoiled the magic charme of the classical photography and 
>>>>> even I regret more and more to have discontinued the use of film, even 
>>>>> if in my opinion, it is no more as it was in the past. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Even looking at my own film pictures, lately I?m working a lot with my 
>>>>> old pictures, I can see a difference between the pictures I shoot 
>>>>> before the year ? say 2004 and the later ones?. Did you noticed this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 4 des 2016, a les 8:23, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> 
>>>>>> va escriure:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A great ?anthology? of 70 years of images from some of the best 
>>>>>> around:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/gallery/2016/dec/03/seven-decades-of-classic-photography-from-the-observer?CMP=share_btn_link
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerry  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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