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Subject: [Leica] Be enlightened: Work for free!
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 14:33:38 -0800
References: <abda0b7e-6060-3b92-f3ad-ea32974d8de2@gmail.com>

Hi Peter,
Good for you, proper & polite response.
cheers,
Dr. ted  :-) 
PS: If they all work for free? How do they get their food, clothes & beer?
Pay their rent or mortgage? Buy their cars? And when you check them out on
GOOGLE and see they are an international RIP-OFF organization? Do they also
get "FREE AIR TRAVEL?" HOTELS ETC.?
Dr. ted  :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of
Peter Klein
Sent: December-11-16 2:10 PM
To: lug
Subject: Re: [Leica] Be enlightened: Work for free!

Thanks for all the comments.  Of course I said "no."  Here's my reply to 
them and their response:

------ I wrote --------------
The answer is no. And you might consider that by basing your calendar 
business on the "work for free" model, you are furthering an economic 
model that is devaluing all creative work and contributing to a decline 
in all the arts.


----- they replied ----------
Thank you your reply. We are sorry we won't be able to present your photo.
We all work for free as a labor of love, so the "work for free" model is 
very familiar to us, but we certainly understand your point of view.

Best of luck in all your endeavors, and blessed holidays!
----------------------------

--Peter

> LUG:  I just received the following "flickrmail" request to publish one
> of my photographs in a calendar.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/24844563 at N04/5265537626/
> For free, of course.  Here's the note I received"
>
>     "We have seen your touching photograph shown in the link below, and
>     would love to include it in our Prayer & Meditation Calendar 2018,
>     which can be seen here: PrayerMeditationCalendar.org. Due to budget
>     constraints, our nonprofit universal spiritual organization
>     publishes this calendar each year largely through the kindness of
>     photographers who donate their images. All of us serve as unpaid
>     volunteers to further the cause of love and unity among all beings.
>
>     "We offer to send a calendar to the photographers and provide the
>     credit lines they prefer. Would an arrangement like this be
>     agreeable to you? If so we will need the image highest res & 300 ppi
>     on the shortest side, your preferred credit line and your mailing
>     address."
>
> The signer has a one year-old flickr account with no photographs. This
> is the organization involved:
> http://truthconsciousness.org/about/truth-consciousness-organization/
> And I found this:
> http://www.westword.com/news/hide-the-swami-5055176
>
> Anyway, it made me feel pretty low.  If my work is only of value to scam
> artists and bottom-feeders, and only if I give it away, why bother?
>
> --Peter


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Replies: Reply from ric at cartersxrd.net (RicCarter) ([Leica] Be enlightened: Work for free!)
In reply to: Message from boulanger.croissant at gmail.com (Peter Klein) ([Leica] Be enlightened: Work for free!)