Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2017/03/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:25 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.fr> wrote: > > S2 came out a few years before the D800 ;-) S lenses are all quite > heavy..... > > I have probably used most medium format cameras, the only reflex ones I > liked were Hasselblad (owned for many years) and RB/RZ in the studio, > liked Pentax 67 results but not the camera?. what are your thoughts please John about the new Fuji? > > john > > -----Original Message----- > > I handled an S2 right after they came out. There was a Nikon D800 also > there. > I remember thinking the size and ergonomics of the S2 and the D800 were > about equal. And other than a difference in the weight ( actual weight > difference... D800 is about 1Kgm the S2 is 1.4Kgm. About a pound > different... ), the lens balance was about the same, an important > parameter for me. > > But the handling of the 2 was pretty much identical. The H4D was awkwardly > different. The torque twist on the wrist was genuinely "different". I > could continue to analyze my reactions, but to be honest, it is not a > camera I am interested in. > > I have had waist level TLR cameras, and Hasselblad 500 ( which I find work > best waist level or tripod mounted), and the Mamiya C330 and 645 with a > waist level finder very comfortable. As soon as I place an eye level > oriented grip on them, they too become unwieldy. But even then the H4d > was more awkward. That hand grip on the side maybe to blame? The TLR > cameras placed the handle beneath the camera, where I could use it > comfortably ( being square format, portrait and landscape modes were the > same. You use it vertically all the time). > > I do remember thinking, at the time they were popular, that all the (film > or digi) MF cameras, like the Bronica E2 series, the Mamiya 645 ( now Phase > One) were not my cuppa. It was an attempt to take a WLF camera, and make > it so a 35mm user would find the through the eye level finder similar to > the 35mm SLR. For me, it failed. The H4d is in that tradition. > > It is true, that when it comes to the SL, that big zoom lens up front is > unlike any lens I have handled on other MF digi cameras. And it is > probably that lens that makes a bad impression on me ( ergonomic point of > view). > Maybe if it had a 50mm ( or pick another FL) lens up front, my reactions > would be different.... > > I get a lot of pleasure trying out new, different cameras. As you can > tell, the X1d positively impressed me. It was done to my preferences. > Would I feel the same if it had a big honking zoom up front? A question > for the next time I visit Samys.... > > Frank Filippone > > Red735i at verizon.net > > > >> First the Hasselblad H4D.... a BEAST! Heavy, awkward to hold >> freehand, and back heavy. If you are insistent on using a mirror box >> MF digital camera, and want that 35mm overall position of the body > relative to your eye, I guess it fits the bill. > > Have you ever held a Leica S series (S2, S2-P, S(006) or S(007))? > > Until the last couple of months there was no option about have a mirror > box if you wanted digital MF (other than technical cameras) :-) > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information