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Subject: [Leica] Film Lab
From: dankhong at gmail.com (Dan Khong)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 16:14:08 +0800
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I just souped a roll of Tri-X and waiting to send it to the pro-lab to have
it scanned into digital. After that, I have the options of two work
processes - digital and analog. And my negatives will serve as my archival
backup.

All said, 90% of my B&W pics (100% of color) are now taken on digital, but
it's the last bit that is analog that gives me memories that spans back 50
years when film was there in the most impressionable years of my life.
Those were the days of Nam and protest songs, and growing up into
adulthood.

Dan K.

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:

> I really really really miss my B&W darkroom. The whole experience was
> soothing and healing.
>
> But I will say that my film scanners were better than my flatbed.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mark Rabiner
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 1:45 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Film Lab
>
> Me too! As much as I loved working in it for decades I love even more not
> working with it now.
> As much as I love having great classic or funky cameras in my hands I love
> image making more.
> For me it?s about the picture.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
>
> On 6/4/17, 10:15 AM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley" <lug-bounces+mark=
> rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of tmanley at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>    I will never go back to film.  Life is too short.
>
>    Tina
>
>    On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 3:30 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at 
> gmail.com
> >
>    wrote:
>
>    > Dan,
>    > Oh, I am sure of that!
>    >
>    > I feel that digital output is still better than darkroom output,
> though,
>    > even for B&W. IMHO, there is simply no comparison, in the complete
>    > workflow, from capture to print. As I said, others may have different
>    > opinions and I respect that - I know Lluis does, and we have
> discussed this
>    > many, many times privately, and in the end we just amicably agree to
>    > disagree, and go on with what suits us individually! However, I find
> the
>    > exchange of views very useful, leading to invaluable insights.
>    >
>    > Cameras are tools for me, and digital cameras, Fuji & Nikon, one for
> street
>    > and one for wildlife, are my tools of choice at this point of time.
> The
>    > Fuji GFX50S is tempting, and exerting a siren's song,  but I cannot
> see how
>    > I have any use for it that makes it superior to my existing gear, for
> my
>    > type of photography, and the sizes I print at present. A printer that
>    > accepts 24" wide paper, instead of 17" that my Epson 3885 uses might
> be a
>    > better choice right now!
>    >
>    > I have a fair amount of film camera equipment gathering dust on my
> shelves
>    > and in the bank locker, more, I am sure, than most of the most
> committed
>    > film shooters around - Leica IIIF and IIIG, Nikon F Apollo. F2AS,
>    > F3Titanium, F4, F100, Canon and Nikon Rangefinders, Rollei TLRs,
> Mamiya
>    > 645E - except for the Leicas, all of them were originally bought by my
>    > family - uncles, aunts, father, myself - and finally found their way
> to me.
>    > Most of these are with me because I did not have the wit (or the
> heart) to
>    > sell them in time. This after selling most of my Leica film equipment
> in
>    > London a few years ago (M3, M2, R6.2 and 10 lenses)!
>    >
>    > Pens and watches, on the other hand, are hobbies, passions which make
> them
>    > an emotional issue, while cameras are just a utilitarian one! I am
>    > particularly fond of JLR and IWC in watches, and Pelikan as well as
> the
>    > Japanese trio, Namiki/Pilot, Sailor and Platinum as far as pens are
>    > concerned, and primarily these are what I use.
>    >
>    > Cheers
>    > Jayanand
>    >
>    > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Dan Khong <dankhong at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>    >
>    > > Jayanand
>    > >
>    > > You might be more analog oriented than you think.
>    > >
>    > > I actually like collecting and using old fully mechanical watches
> and
>    > apart
>    > > from the antique look, almost all that I have are accurate and they
> run
>    > > like clockwork. I also write with fountain pens in my work and
> cheap ones
>    > > perform really well. So it looks that we have much in common.
>    > >
>    > > Dan K.
>    > >
>    > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <
> jayanand at gmail.com
>    > >
>    > > wrote:
>    > >
>    > > > I disagree, I think film is nowhere as good as digital, but to
> each his
>    > > > own.....:-) (Hey - I use mechanical watches and fountain pens!!!)
>    > > >
>    > > > Cheers
>    > > > Jayanand
>    > > >
>    > > >
>    > > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 3:18 AM, lluisripollphotography <
>    > > > lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>    > > >
>    > > > > Gerry, Dan
>    > > > >
>    > > > > I?m agree of course, but film is not only nostalgia, it is
> better
>    > > quality
>    > > > > than pixels technologies?
>    > > > >
>    > > > > Cheers
>    > > > > Lluis
>    > > > >
>    > > > >
>    > > > > > El 3 juny 2017, a les 23:23, Dan Khong <dankhong at gmail.com>
> va
>    > > > escriure:
>    > > > > >
>    > > > > > Lluis
>    > > > > >
>    > > > > > Film and darkroom is far from dead. Ilford is revived as
>    > > Harman-Ilford.
>    > > > > > Kodak still makes films both for still photography and
>    > > cinematographic
>    > > > > > industry. Seems Star Wars and latest Bond movie were shot on
> film.
>    > > Once
>    > > > > in
>    > > > > > a while, I set up my darkroom (bedroom for the dry part and
>    > > connecting
>    > > > > > bathroom for the wet part) and enlarge a dozen prints. Nothing
>    > beats
>    > > > the
>    > > > > > smell of fixer for nostalgia.
>    > > > > >
>    > > > > > Bests
>    > > > > >
>    > > > > > Dan K.
>    > > > > >
>    > > > > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 6:34 PM, lluisripollphotography <
>    > > > > > lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>    > > > > >
>    > > > > >> Jayanand,
>    > > > > >>
>    > > > > >> The best B&W is from the darkroom, now I?ve been back I
> regret to
>    > > have
>    > > > > >> spent so much time and money on digital?.
>    > > > > >>
>    > > > > >> Cheers
>    > > > > >> Lluis
>    > > > > >>
>    > > > > >>
>    > > > > >>
>    > > > > >>> El 16 maig 2017, a les 5:05, Jayanand Govindaraj <
>    > > jayanand at gmail.com
>    > > > >
>    > > > > >> va escriure:
>    > > > > >>>
>    > > > > >>> If it catches anybody's fancy!
>    > > > > >>>
>    > > > > >>> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/175814937/filmlab-an-
>    > > > > >> app-for-viewing-and-digitizing-analog-f
>    > > > > >>>
>    > > > > >>> Cheers
>    > > > > >>> Jayanand
>    > > > > >>>
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Film Lab)
In reply to: Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Film Lab)
Message from lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (lluisripollphotography) ([Leica] Film Lab)
Message from dankhong at gmail.com (Dan Khong) ([Leica] Film Lab)
Message from lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (lluisripollphotography) ([Leica] Film Lab)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Film Lab)
Message from dankhong at gmail.com (Dan Khong) ([Leica] Film Lab)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Film Lab)
Message from tmanley at gmail.com (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Film Lab)
Message from billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce) ([Leica] Film Lab)