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Subject: [Leica] Need printing paper advice
From: leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram Langhans)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 09:28:36 -0700
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Just to raise a point which may or may not be relevant in this 
situation....? I do not remember anything specifically said about nudes 
of women.? What if they are nudes of men?

That said, I agree with you Tina.? Long overdue and drastically needed.? 
This exploitation has gone on long enough, mostly in the shadows before 
the internet, but now it can be done in the privacy of one's home so 
shame is not a limiting factor.?? While there is indeed a wide berth 
between true pornography and fine art, there is perhaps a much narrower 
line that divides the two, and personal opinion will vary considerable 
in at what someone posts in that gray area.? But as long as the 
potential viewer knows in advance what is coming, and then views to see 
what side of the line the poster seems to fall on for them, they can 
decide whether to view the next post or not.


Aram


On 5/6/2018 7:23 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> Which is what I said.  I'm just giving you the female slant on what I
> consider to be pornography and not art.
> I will avert my eyes but I will not appreciate it and I will be offended if
> photos take advantage of young women who hope to become famous because they
> are posing for male photographers with expensive cameras.
>
> The "Me, too" movement has been unfortunately trivialized by some but it is
> long overdue.
>
> Tina
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:09 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
>> Richard C,
>> Well, there have been others who have been driven away by the Moral Police
>> on this forum for posting boudoir photography, including nudes, so it all
>> boils down to how strong you are at ignoring, and refusing to be affected
>> by,  the unfounded and small minded rants of others. I remember one
>> particularly nasty case a few years ago where all the moral sanctimonious
>> instincts of many members was in full view, and I found it quite
>> distasteful. My view is, as always, to each his own - after all, all of us
>> have some strange hidden areas in our personalities! If any viewer does 
>> not
>> like it, they should learn to avert their eyes.
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 8:52 PM, Douglas Barry <imra at iol.ie> wrote:
>>
>>> Richard, others have posted nudes on the gallery, so bang ahead. If
>> people
>>> don't want to be shocked, well then they shouldn't follow the links you
>>> post.
>>>
>>> Douglas
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/05/2018 19:15, Richard Clompus via LUG wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have taken to heart the concept that you need to print your best
>>>> images.  Storing them on a hard drive makes it difficult to really enjoy
>>>> them or to give them to others as gifts.  So my current project is to
>> print
>>>> a portfolio of black & white nude images taken during a Leica Master
>> Class
>>>> with Ralph Gibson in San Francisco. I learned a lot from him in 3 days.
>> I?m
>>>> very pleased with the images but have no clue how to exhibit them.  I?ve
>>>> hesitated to post nudes to our gallery but would be willing to share a
>> few
>>>> if there is interest.  They are reminiscent of timeless nudes from
>> Imogen
>>>> Cunningham and Edward Weston.
>>>>
>>>> I?m printing with an Epson P800 printer and started with Epson Velvet
>>>> Fine Art Paper (8.5 x 11?).  Its a mat paper, 100% rag content, acid
>> free,
>>>> 19 mil thickness, 260 gm weight with a slightly textured surface.  I?m
>>>> ready to treat myself with better paper but don?t have any experience
>> with
>>>> rag paper from Moab, Canson, Hahnem?hle or Museo.  These fine art papers
>>>> get expensive very quickly so I?ve decided to use 8.5 x 11 for now.
>>>>
>>>> Can someone share their experience with the rag paper of their choice?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>> Richard Clompus
>>>> California
>>>>
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