Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2018/08/21

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Subject: [Leica] Paper profile question
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 09:58:27 +0530
References: <07d5acdd-2a95-fdb9-3610-c441cb34c433@cox.net> <78148D34-944A-45A8-AC03-9D2E6FBC2B8C@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <CAJ3Pgh4nz1VOhrHHPnfacL6wNjzJsdjtPpQdtdE5=VkcYHC+7w@mail.gmail.com> <CAH1UNJ2c9nyVs_QZm_AGX2YKnja=6Ad7HUrF9iLGDsTYeBU9qQ@mail.gmail.com>

I should also mention that I tried Quadtone RIP, found it too geeky and
fiddly for me. I tried various inksets as well, but being in India meant no
service, and no recourse to the manufacturers, and ended up with me having
to junk a couple of printers due to severe clogging.

I decided then and there to stick to Epson Inks and ImagePrint (whose
service has been exceptional over the years).

Cheers
Jayanand


On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 9:54 AM Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have been using ImagePrint ever since 2003/4 when I started printing in
> earnest, in the days of getting random green and magenta tints on B&W
> prints on an Epson 1290. There was no choice but use a RIP in those days
> for neutral B&W output, and IP's profiles were, and still are, much better
> than the manufacturers canned ones. Having paid out the initial joining fee
> eons ago, I have been upgrading as and when I have been upgrading printers,
> as I am used to their interface and it is a part of my printing workflow.
> If I were in the same position today that I was way back then, I would not
> bother with a RIP, as Chris pointed out, and stick to the Epson ABW driver,
> as it has improved by leaps and bounds over the years.
>
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 9:00 AM Paul Roark via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I print all my B&W with QuadToneRip.
>>
>> Many use the OEM inkset, but I prefer a dedicated B&W approach.
>>
>> FWIW,
>>
>> Paul
>> www.PaulRoark.com
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 5:39 PM Christopher Crawford <
>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Ken,
>> >
>> > Inexpensive profiling kits like that one don't really produce very good
>> > profiles, and even the high end profiling devices don't do well for BW
>> > printing. To be honest, the Epson Advanced BW Mode produces FAR more
>> > accurate B&W prints than you'll get from using any color profile, and
>> it is
>> > built-in and free.
>> >
>> > I made a tutorial on how to use it:
>> >
>> > https://youtu.be/kxkpJEzn8YM
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Chris Crawford
>> > Fine Art Photography
>> > Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> > 260-437-8990
>> >
>> > http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>> >
>> > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>> > Like My Work on Facebook
>> >
>> >
>> > ?On 8/21/18, 8:07 PM, "LUG on behalf of Ken Carney" <lug-bounces+chris=
>> > chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of kcarney1 at 
>> > cox.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >     Tapping the wisdom of the LUG:  I would like to start making my own
>> >     paper profiles for b&w on Epson printers.  B&H has the X-Rite kit on
>> >     sale for $389.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1369004-REG/x_rite_eostudio_i1studio.html
>> >
>> >     Will this be a good solution?  Now I am using the Spyder 3 Pro for
>> >     monitors, and the factory profiles for papers (Hahnemuelle, Epson
>> > etc.)
>> >     This is with soft-proofing the paper profiles then adjusting if
>> >     necessary.  Most of the time the prints are good...but I would like
>> > them
>> >     to be better.  Previously I have used ImagePrint with good results,
>> > but
>> >     dang it is expensive to keep upgrading for a hobbyist.
>> >
>> >     Ken
>> >
>> >
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In reply to: Message from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] Paper profile question)
Message from chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com (Christopher Crawford) ([Leica] Paper profile question)
Message from roark.paul at gmail.com (Paul Roark) ([Leica] Paper profile question)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Paper profile question)