Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2019/03/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Tina, I have verified to apply diferent color filters with Silver Efex Pro on B&W pictures from the Monochrom, or from film, or from converted to B&W from M9 and the tones applying the filters don?t change at all. Because once a file is converted to B&W the three color channels information disappear, this is as well the basic concept to convert a sensor to a only B&W sensor, eliminating the called Bayer filter on the sensor. A different thing is when you are converting a file from any color camera M9 etc?, you can apply the desired filter for change the effect on the B&W conversion, but once is converted, at least me, I have no possibility to modify it acting on the filers or color channels. Please let me konw if you can do it, maybe I?m doing a wrong operation, thank you! Cheers Lluis > El 4 mar? 2019, a les 1:34, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> > va escriure: > > I don't understand that Lluis. When I apply Sliver Efex to MM images it > definitely makes a difference in the tones. > > Tina > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:32 AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at > leica-users.org> > wrote: > >> Tina, >> >> If you apply a filter to a B&W picture from the Monochrom it makes no >> effect on the tones, neither with Silver Efex Pro. >> >> lluis >> >> >>> El 4 mar? 2019, a les 1:09, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> >> va escriure: >>> >>> Yes, the MM is totally different from converting color. I, however, >> would >>> not use actual filters on Leica lenses. Any glass in front of the lens >>> degrades it to some extent and increases the possibility of flares. >> That's >>> one area that I think digital is better. Take the photo with the MM and >>> apply the digital filter later. That way you still have the >>> unmanipulated photo and can apply as many or as few filters as you want, >>> after the fact. I really like Nik's Silver Efex for processing B&W. >>> >>> Tina >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:50 AM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> I really think and this shot illustrates it that they way to do black >> and >>>> white when your shooting digital is to use a digital camera or back. >>>> Digital conversions done later have never quite made it for me. Once I >> see >>>> them in color I seldom feel like taking all the color out. I always know >>>> the colors are there. Shots I'd converted to black and white years later >>>> when I look at the original raw file again I end up keeping the color >> when >>>> I photoshop it again. >>>> I hope the time comes when I can get set up with a Leica monochrome or >>>> other digital black and white sensor and wow start investing in filters >> as >>>> I don?t know if I can find the ones I used to use. My default was the >> 060 >>>> B+W yellow green. Is B+W still in business it was owned by JSK >> Schneider? >>>> But I loved a darker green or red for sky shots. And others. But the >> green >>>> I used the most as they were the only ones which did not turn people in >> to >>>> creatures from another planet. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> Photographer >>>> >>>> ?On 3/3/19, 12:11 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG" >>>> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of >>>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> PESO: >>>> >>>> I posted a few B&W's from night markets: >>>> >>>> https://pbase.com/tinamanley/image/168874023 >>>> >>>> And next. >>>> >>>> I'll have lots more B&W when I get to some of people working but they >>>> are >>>> usually such colorful people that I took far more color than B&W. >>>> >>>> TIA for any comments. >>>> >>>> Tina >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tina Manley >>>> www.tinamanley.com >>>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >>>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley >>>> < >>>> >> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tina Manley >>> www.tinamanley.com >>> tina-manley.artistwebsites.com >>> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley >>> < >> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > -- > Tina Manley > www.tinamanley.com > tina-manley.artistwebsites.com > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley > <http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information