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Subject: [Leica] Art VS Pornography
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 20:47:02 -0700
References: <CA+yJO1AC=fnPupuJAHx60Qsu5oxeEqFV-LeJ0O7jtC7eHvOtzQ@mail.gmail.com> <89B342DF-054B-4D37-8A0D-C026ACBE6280@icloud.com> <CA+yJO1DD=aUensmbMQCAq-t7AScixsiSGGKJUe3NENV5dVhB4g@mail.gmail.com> <28D7D089-17CB-4BCE-9CDF-4C7281935FE2@rabinergroup.com>

Whenever a male photographer posts a (female) nude, I'd ask him if he has
any male nudes.

There are predators who hide behind cameras.

On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 7:48 PM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> I always thought Boudoir was toilet and Boudoir photos would be people
> sitting on the toilet.
> But then I turned 13.
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
>
> ?On 4/24/19, 6:38 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG"
> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
>     Boudoir photography is a better description for most of the photos than
>     pornography but if you saw one today that was later removed - that was
>     pornographic, as far as I'm concerned.  I'm not a prude and I admire
>     beautifully done nude photography.  Not many of these are beautifully
>     done.  There is no attention to lighting or composition at all.  Just -
>     "here is a photo I managed to take of a naked woman"   I think the old
> guys
>     are compensating ;-)
>
>     Tina
>
>     On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 6:18 PM George Lottermoser via LUG <
>     lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
>     > I participate on that page.
>     > I?ve not seen anything I would refer to as ?pornography.?
>     >
>     > I have seen a lot of pseudo erotic so-called ?boudoir? photography;
>     > which I?ve never had much appreciation for;
>     > even while I do appreciate beautiful women;
>     > I don?t appreciate ?pretend situation? photography.?
>     >
>     > At the same time I DO appreciate:
>     > fine formal portrait photography
>     > environmental portrait photography
>     > candid portrait photography
>     >
>     > and of course lines blur between all those classifications.
>     >
>     > The page also presents
>     >
>     > > On Apr 24, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Tina Manley via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org>
>     > wrote:
>     > >
>     > > LUG:
>     > >
>     > > Are any of you members of the FB page Leica Portrait Group??  It
> has
>     > always
>     > > emphasized nude women over actual portraits but has now crossed
> the line,
>     > > as far as I'm concerned, into pornography.  Even worse, the photos
> have
>     > no
>     > > redeeming photographic quality.  I've left the group.
>     > >
>     > > I just wondered if anybody else had an opinion or am I just being a
>     > > sensitive female?
>     >
>     > George Lottermoser
>     > george.imagist at icloud.com
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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>
>
>
>     --
>     Tina Manley
>     www.tinamanley.com
>     http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
>     <
> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
> >
>     *https://www.alamy.com/portfolio/649596.html
>     <https://www.alamy.com/portfolio/649596.html>*
>
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