Re: [Leica] Re: Halogen light and lenses

["Gary D. Whalen" <whalen@whalentennis.com>]

Dear Ted,

    You are obviously a "hell of a man".  You don't need to test but you just
shoot.  Thats great for you but if it is true you are sure wasting a lot of
money.  Why buy Leica if your not getting more than Nikon or Canon?  Why
bother.  Their is an inherent obligation of Leica to make sure the lenses and
bodies are perfect.  At least as perfect as possible.  My point is simply this:
if the lense is delivered in a condition LESS than it should be then why?   Why
accept it?  Why ignore it?  Do you do the same with your cars, house, stocks,
shirts, shoes, picture frames, etc.  You have to inspect your stuff if for no
other reason than to keep Leica up to its own high standards.  If checking
expensive equipment for flaws is stupid then I have some land I want to sell
you.

Ted Grant wrote:

> Jim Brick wrote:
>
> >I have often wondered if people buy Leica's to use for photography, or as
> >an exercise in mechanical/optical study.>>>>>>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Until I joined the LUG and started reading what some of them go through
> testing and checking, I have to say that in all my years I never thought of
> these nit picking things. Actually never occurred to me to do the testing
> many of them  describe.
>
> hell I was just glad to get the lens in hand, onto the assignment allowing
> me to capture images others couldn't unless they had the equal lens. These
> tiny little thingies that are seen, certainly blasting a halogen light
> through the lens are bound to show something and mean diddly squat!  Who
> cares, get out and take some dam pictures and see what you get! That's the
> best test of any!
>
> If you find the images are lousy, maybe look at self ability first and lens
> second! :)
>
> But as you & Leica say, I'll repeat.  These little speckies in no way make
> any difference to the recorded image on the film.
>
> Most of these guys going through this "light look through thing" will have
> created a twitch in the knickers of a bunch of Luggites, hell they'll all
> be running out buying halogen lights to shine through the lens. Then
> there'll be a hundred posts whining about speckies inside the lens and
> whine whine etc.
>
> I know a couple of users, you and I, that are not going to be doing it, a
> total waste of time, besides I'd hate to look in mine after all these
> years! :) Or even at the new ones.
>
> Besides as long as my images come out Leica looking, then I don't need to
> look through them. I'd much rather be out shooting than fiddling and
> farting around over this twaddling nonsense!
>
> >About your 100/2.8 . Are you really interested in someone taking it all
> >apart, attempting to clean it, then reassembling it, without introducing
> >more problems? I personally would just use it. I wouldn't have this dilemma
> >in the first place...
>
> I can't imagine anyone whining about a situation like this without shooting
> film to see what the outcome is. And for someone to even suggest finding a
> technician to take it apart to clean before using it, is ludicrous! Then
> what would happen when it's reassembled and the owner sees more thingies
> than there were before? Tear down and start all over?
>
> To accomplish an absolutely "clean air environment" the lens would have be
> done in one of the "clean air labs" for medical or aerospace work. Quite
> frankly I fear the posts that are going to arrive in the days ahead!
>
> I guess it's quick delete time for them. Me? I'm out shooting! :) To hell
> with the halogens and speckies! :)
>
> ted
>
> Ted Grant
> This is Our Work. The Legacy of Sir William Osler.
> http://www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant