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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Noctilux Result????
From: Austin Burbridge <LEICA@attglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:11:04 -0800

Among BARRY LYNDON's end-credits is one to Zeiss for the special lens.

>Chandos:
>
>Kubrick used a couple of lenses for "Barry Lyndon" which I believe were F
>0.7.  I think they were NASA lenses which he had adapted to the camera they
>were using.  I have the American Cinematographer magazine article at work
>and will check for details.
>
>Mike D
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chandos Michael Brown <cmbrow@mail.wm.edu>
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 10:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: Noctilux Result????
>
>
>>Uh . . . I am deeply confused.  I thought that Kubrick employed the .95 to
>>shoot candlelit scenes in -Barry Lyndon-.
>>
>>Chandos
>>
>>
>>At 08:44 PM 1/25/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>> > <<<The F1.0 Noctilux made it appearance in 1976.>>>>>>
>>> >
>>> > I owned and was using a Noctilux f 1.0 in 1967 and have used the same
>lens
>>> > since! And with quite startlingly good results. You may have made a
>typo
>>>on
>>> > the date. Is that possible?
>>> >
>>> > As far as an, "apple and oranges comparison?" I think not, as there
>really
>>> > isn't any comparison to the Noctilux. Yes there is the Canon f.1.0 and
>the
>>> > f.0.95, but neither are in the same league as the Noctilux.  It stands
>>> > completely on it's own without comparison.
>>> >
>>> > And after 33 years experience with this lens I wouldn't touch any other
>>>50mm
>>> > lens! Yep some maybe crisper looking under some conditions, but it
>doesn't
>>> > matter, as they don't look like anything at f.1.0 when you need it and
>>>they
>>> > don't have it.
>>>
>>>Ted,
>>>
>>>Eastland, in the Leica M Compendium, says that the 50mm F1.0 Noctilux was
>>>introduced in 1976 while the F1.2 Noctilux was introduced in 1966.
>>>
>>>My point was that optical science, as well as the manufacturing abilities
>of
>>>a camera/lens manufacturer, change and improve over time.  No argument
>that
>>>the F1.2 or 1.0 Noctilux are both much better than either of the two
>Canon's
>>>we're talking about, but they better be considering they were designed
>years
>>>later.
>>>
>>>BTW, I too recently watched "Tom Jones" and was so impressed with some of
>>>the dim-light scenes that were shot with the Canon F0.95 lens, that I
>>>recently picked up the TV version of this lens, in a c-mount, which I plan
>>>to mount on a movie or video camera.  It only cost me a $110.00 so I
>>>couldn't pass it up.
>>>
>>>Jim Bielecki
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Chandos Michael Brown
>>Assoc. Prof., History and American Studies
>>College of William and Mary
>>
>>http://www.wm.edu/CAS/ASP/faculty/brown
>>
>>
>