Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/12/26

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Subject: Re: [Leica] OT/Paypal web site
From: Dennis Painter <dennis@hale-pohaku.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 08:10:11 -0800
References: <2AA6265E.3FA633F0.00A1E03B@netscape.net> <3.0.2.32.20011225121255.01648fe8@roanoke.infi.net>

Marc James Small wrote:
> 
> At 09:39 PM 12/24/01 -0800, Dennis Painter wrote:
> >In general I think Paypal works for most people but there are always
> >those exceptions. I can pretty much guaranted that Paypal's T&Cs are
> >written to protect Paypal first, and you last.
> 
> I would certainly expect and hope that the corporate heads of PayPal made
> damn certain that their terms and conditions favored them.  This is the
> norm in ALL business.  E-Bay's terms and conditions favor E-Bay.  General
> Motor's terms and conditions favor General Motors.  UPS' terms and
> conditions favor UPS.
> 
> What else would you expect?
> 
> Marc
> 

Of course I expect it. I do not think ebay or GM or most other
businesses compare to Paypal because of the nature of Paypal's
"business". Transaction dollars will flow in, and back out, of your
account according to the interpretation of the T&C by Paypal. General
Motors? well there is a great lemon law here in California. Ebay? they
provide a venue for buyers and sellers, I don't see how it relates.

Dollars flowed out of your account? Don't like it? well in the T&Cs you
agreed to binding arbitration. (That's a whole new can of worms) Rest
assured that the arbitrator gets more business from them than you. Like
a B&W photo the T&Cs have shades of grey an interpretation may well
'favor' them, not you. 

There is lots more but I have wasted too much bandwidth on this.  I
acknowledge that for some people it works, each person makes their own
decisions ;-)


Dennis
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In reply to: Message from nhcharch@netscape.net (Noel Charchuk) (RE: Re: [Leica] OT/Paypal web site)
Message from Marc James Small <msmall@roanoke.infi.net> (Re: [Leica] OT/Paypal web site)