Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/03
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Chris
Unfortunately new Leica glass is out of the question right now. I am
looking for a WA, probably a 35mm Summicron. I have found a mid to late
first generation Summicron, sn#206xxx, for a decent price, but on the other
hand for the same money I could get the 35/1.7 CV and another CV lens. I
am split 50/50 right now on the decision. The CV lenses have gotten great
reviews both here and other places, but from what I can tell all of the 35
Summicrons are excellent choices also. Maybe someone here can help me by
giving me some info...How are the old Summicrons on flare and also how are
the CV lenses in this same respect? I guess one thing positive for getting
the Summicron is that I just happen to have a hood for one. ;-) Eventually
I will buy new Leica glass when I can afford it.
Gene
"Saganich,
Christopher/Medical Physics" To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
<saganicc@MSKCC.ORG> cc:
Sent by: Subject: RE: [Leica] The LEICA DIGILUX 2 is announced
owner-leica-users@mejac.palo
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12/03/2003 10:28 AM
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leica-users
Gene,
Having the same decisions to make, and often making the wrong decisions,
I've found that sticking with the newest Leica glass was the final decision
for my favorite focal lengths, 35-90, and for the less favorites I readily
consider vintage Leica or new CV, which is quite good. Just my 2 cnts.
Chris Saganich
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Kit McChesney
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:39 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] The LEICA DIGILUX 2 is announced
Gene--
It is a dilemma, isn't it?
It's easy to decide, however. Do what makes you happiest!
Kit
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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of
grduprey@rockwellcollins.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:21 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] The LEICA DIGILUX 2 is announced
Kit
I will fess up. I am agonizing over whether to buy a 1960's vintage 35/2.0
Summicron or two CV lenses instead. I know the CV lenses are very good and
cost way less than the Leica lenses, and I can get 2 CV for the price of
the used Summicron, BUT, One of the reasons I bought Leica in the first
place was the lenses. AAAHH!! What to do?
Gene
"Kit McChesney"
<kitmc@acmefoto.com> To:
<leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent by: cc:
owner-leica-users@mejac.palo Subject: RE:
[Leica] The LEICA DIGILUX 2 is announced
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12/02/2003 09:24 PM
Please respond to
leica-users
It's may surprise you, but there are many interested folks in this camera,
despite the price tag. My phone has been ringing quite a bit today and my
email is busy, too. There will always be folks to whom something like this
will appeal, and to others, no. It was the same with the MP. It was roundly
criticized here, and in other public places (probably because most of the
folks who feel free to post messages are those who are pretty outspoken
anyway, and the quieter folks usually say very little), but it sold well,
and still continues to sell well.
Some folks like one thing, others another. It's a matter of taste, and
largely, I think, buying decisions are based on pure emotion. I'm sure
there's hardly a person in "here" who would deny that the visual appeal of
his or her M6, or the design of a lens, or some other factor other than
pure
utility, was the straw that broke the camel's back and sent him/her running
like mad dogs to the camera store. How many times have we all stood in
front
of the Leica case and lusted heartily over what was inside? Come on, 'fess
up.
The thing that really seems to get everyone steaming is price, though. I
think our poor weak dollar has more to do with this than just about
anything
else. That and Leica's 19th century manufacturing model. One at a time, one
at a time. That's why we like 'em. They're made by hand. Only 12 M cameras
a
day "roll" off the bench. Actually, they travel around in a little wooden
crate until all 12 are finished at whatever stage, and then on to the next
workbench.
Leica is a luxury item, just like Aston Martin, and Jerry's beloved
Testarossa. A beautifully engineered and well-designed item as well.
Kit
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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Ted Bayer
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] The LEICA DIGILUX 2 is announced
Kit:
No need to apologize. It's not something you or any other dealer can
control. I think the boys at Solms were drinking too much Schnapps when
they put the pencil to this deal.
I agree with those who are disappointed. It is sad too see strong
supporters of Leica products saying it's over-the-top. But they are
stating
the facts, and that's what we all have to look at if we are realistic about
the camera.
If the initial reaction in any indication, I would venture a guess that
this camera isn't going to move very well.
Ted
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kit McChesney" <kitmc@acmefoto.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] The LEICA DIGILUX 2 is announced
> Sorry, guys. If I could make them myself, I'd be able to price them
myself,
> too!
>
> Kit
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Sonny
Carter
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:51 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] The LEICA DIGILUX 2 is announced
>
> --- "Kit McChesney" wrote:
> "Okey, dokey. It's $1850.00. List is $2100.00
> Kit"
>
> That is indeed disappointing. Though the Panasonic LC1 price should be
> considerably lower. My guess still is at just under a grand, though the
> feature set doesn't look worth $500 more than the LC1.
>
> The D-lux is about $820 The Panasonic camera it is derived from sells
for
> $325. No leather case or red dot.
>
> The Digilux 1 sold for $895, my Panasonic LC5 was about $500. The lens
still
> says "Leica." (I know gnomes did not grind the elements.)
>
> Regards,
>
> Sonny
> http://www.sonc.com
> Natchitoches, LA, USA
>
> "You can't always get what you want, but sometimes, if you try, you can
get
> what you need"
> The Stones
>
>
>
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