Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/16

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Digilux 2
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:06:09 -0500

Dream on, Howard - Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if they needed a
lens that big to cover the entire FL at f 2 to 2.4. If memory serves me
correctly, that's the f stop range of the zoom on the Oly E10 and E20,
which, I believe, have a chip abt the same size as that in the
digilux....

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Howard L
Ritter, Jr
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:28 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] Digilux 2


You hint at a good point here, Frank. The Oly has a sensor that is 2.5
times the linear size of that in the D2 (which at 8.8 x 6.6 mm is pretty
microscopic these days and may not be optimal in terms of noise and
resolution--the absolute resolution of optics, that is) and should allow
the use of lenses that are similarly smaller in linear dimension. So a
28-90 equivalent for the D2 should be 40% the length and diameter, and
only 6% of the mass, (all this is to some degree exaggerated by the fact
that there are minimums for thickness etc in the interest of structural
strength) of an equivalent lens for a chip the size of the Oly's. That's
simple geometry. And clearly the Vario-Summicron on the D2 is far larger
than that! Compare to the 3:1 zoom on my Canon Digital Elph S400, tiny
by comparison, even if you take into account the lower pixel count and
the slower speed. I think the size of a lens needed to cover the D2's
sensor at f/2-2.4 with equiv FL of 28-90 is a good deal smaller than the
Vario-Summicron. I wonder why the lens is so big. Maybe I'm
underestimating what it takes to produce a lens this fast across the
whole FL range. But when I think of the Summicron 90, and that it covers
a frame 4 TIMES the linear size of the D2's, I don't think so. Maybe
they're saving space for a larger chip, and equiv FL of, say, 42-135 for
the "D3" without having to re-engineer everything. Just pop a 13.2 x 9.9
chip in the same body!

- --howard

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Frank
Dernie
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:46 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Digilux 2


The Olympus has a sensor with over 4x the area of the Digilux 2 (22.5x18
compared to 8.8x6.6). OTOH if the D2 can produce results as good as we
saw at Leica GB from the D1 and is as ergonomic to use as it looks I am
getting one even if the E1 and Canon 10D are better in extremis. Frank

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