Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/02/01

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Subject: Re: [Leica] digital in low light
From: sam <sam@osheaven.net>
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:07:12 -0500
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Feli, you said what I've been too timid to say: Art. I came to 
photography from painting. For me, it began as a form of "sketching" 
used to organize paintings, to an art form in itself. In my world art 
requires touching, cutting and smelling the materials. What dummy would 
say that Photoshop is the perfect tool for oil painting? My feelings are 
that it's as poor a tool for making photographs.

I don't believe anyone on the forum has delved into how much of the 
digital revolution is market driven. From the local lad who has a bit 
too much money in his pocket to the pro who buckles under to his 
employer for faster production. All this talk about how fast and how 
easy digital production is a sure sign that the talk is about 
production, not art. Reminds me of the offers we received in art school 
to make those awful paintings to be sold wholesale as living room "art".


My socialist leanings would be happy as a lark if a glutton tax were 
imposed on every non-essential purchase. Want a $2000 lens to see in the 
dark? $1000 placed in the poor box to feed, shelter, and house people 
who can't do it for themselves before you can even think about buying 
the lens.

Sam S


Feli di Giorgio wrote:
> Personally I don't think I will switch to digital, even if they
> make a digital M. My point is that I like film. I like playing with
> the chemicals and making prints in the darkroom. I like the fact that
> my M only has two dials and one button. I like the way film looks, and 
> enjoy mastering the craft. Making a beautiful image with these rather
> primitive and archaic tools is a challenge I greatly enjoy.
> 
> I don't care if the next wiz bang Canon XB338-XMP is sharper than
> 35mm film. If that was such a pressing criteria I would have switched to
> medium format years ago. Photography is/can be an artform. It's not a weenie
> measuring contest.
> 
> As it is I spend way too much time in front of a computer. Tonight is a
> perfect example. I am stuck at work, slaving away at my computer for some
> halfwit client, who can't decide what color he wants his sky to be.
> 
> The last thing I want to see in my spare time is another computer screen
> or be beeped at by some electronic contraption.
> 
> 
> 
> Feli
> 

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