Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/02/26

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Subject: RE: [Leica] A Grudging Concession to Digital, Made With Regret
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 10:06:19 -0500

I'm not so sure ...I think this is one where technology is starting to
move the market. More and more shows are now including inkjet and iris
prints.

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Slobodan
Dimitrov
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:06 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] A Grudging Concession to Digital, Made With Regret


As with everything else in human life, the market place will dictate
where the real worth will be assigned. S. Dimitrov


> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:19:31 -0500
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] A Grudging Concession to Digital, Made With 
> Regret
> 
> The black and white, inks v. silver question, Marc, is one that will 
> never be satisfactorily answered. There is no question that Photoshop 
> provides far more control over the image than can be achieved in the 
> wet darkroom. There is also no question that one can produce truly 
> beautiful black and white prints using inks, rather than silver. 
> HOWEVER - there is also no question that an inkjet print produced by 
> someone who has mastered the process, and a silver print produced by a

> master printer, are two different (dare I say it?), separate but equal

> animals. Both are beautiful; both but they are not the same. I am 
> extremely pleased with the results I get with the combination of 
> Photoshop, an Epson 1160 printer, and quadtone inks. But I know that 
> some silver aficionados will never accept those prints as "real." So 
> it really comes down, like virtually everything else in every art or 
> craft, to a matter of taste.
> 
> B. D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jonathan

> Borden
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 4:12 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] A Grudging Concession to Digital, Made With 
> Regret
> 
> 
> Doug Herr wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Marc, as Dan C suggested, if the prints from your 1200S scans impress

>> you, try printing from a really good scan.  YMMV, but I was so 
>> impressed that I gave up the enlarger for good.  There's a long 
>> learning curve ahead of you but the results are worth it.
>> 
>> 
> 
> The ease of applying unsharp and contrast masking is hard to believe. 
> Although I've done a certain amount of Cibachrome printing (mostly 
> years
> 
> ago, more recently I've sent it out) and although there is a somewhat 
> steep learning curve with Photoshop (I'm not on the top of the curve 
> yet), the things that can be done in the "digital darkroom" are 
> nothing short of amazing.
> 
> There is no question in my mind that, perhaps unless your name is 
> Ctein,
> 
> for color enlarging, digital far surpasses the conventional chemical 
> darkroom.
> 
> Now for B/W is this the case? (An honest question). Do folks feel that

> digital surpasses "silver gelatin fiber" ? There seems to be something

> to the appearance of a conventional print that has a certain look that

> I
> 
> find appealing, but perhaps it's just because I am not enough of an 
> expert B/W digital printer (yet).
> 
> Jonathan
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