Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/04/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thank you Kyle. I discovered that my new iBook can handle
Powerpoint--my old iMac always crashed. The analysis of Leica
neckstraps was most enlightening :-) but you were better in person.
Wasn't that the time you took a file to your M-6? THE HORROR!!
Bob Marvin
On Tuesday, April 13, 2004, at 08:05 AM, lug-request@leica-users.org
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> 1. Re: Smoking (Eric)
> 2. Re: London tea (FRANK DERNIE)
> 3. Another one ... bites the dust (Daniel Ridings)
> 4. Re: Nathan's PAW 14: Amsterdam shopping (Daniel Ridings)
> 5. Re: Another one ... bites the dust (Gwpics@aol.com)
> 6. Re: PART 4: of Digilux 2.... THE FUN PART! :-) (Doug Herr)
> 7. Re: Woah! Cassidy's back in the saddle! But nobody cares!
> (Kyle Cassidy)
> 8. Re: York v Lancaster London tea (Eric C)
> 9. Re: Another one ... bites the dust (Ruben)
> 10. Re: London tea (Eric C)
> 11. Re: Another one ... bites the dust (Nathan Wajsman)
> 12. Re: London tea (John Collier)
> 13. Re: architecture (Philippe Orlent)
> 14. Re: Woah! Cassidy's back in the saddle! But nobody cares! (lea)
> 15. Re: London tea (Douglas M. Sharp)
> 16. Re: London tea (John Collier)
> 17. Re: R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot? (grduprey@rockwellcollins.com)
> 18. RE: Woah! Cassidy's back in the saddle! But nobody cares! (Phong)
> 19. Re: R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot? (eric korenman)
> 20. RE: architecture (Phong)
> 21. Re: architecture (Clive Moss)
> 22. Re: Woah! Cassidy's back in the saddle! But nobody cares!
> (grduprey@rockwellcollins.com)
> 23. Re: R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot? (SonC@aol.com)
> 24. Re: architecture (Philippe Orlent)
> 25. RE: PART 4: of Digilux 2.... THE FUN PART! :-)
> (Leonard J Kapner)
> 26. Hardly seems worth it. (Aaron Sandler)
> 27. Re: Woah! Cassidy's back in the saddle! But nobody cares!
> (Clive Moss)
> 28. RE: R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot? (Don Dory)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 05:52:58 -0500
> From: "Eric" <ericm@pobox.com>
> Subject: [Leica] Re: Smoking
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Message-ID: <argn709iqpl159l7j3r0nudmlabooi5ufq@4ax.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Marc:
>
>> Secondary smoke has been shown to not be a real issue save for extreme
>> conditions:
>
> I've tried to stay out of this. I realize that an online debate isn't
> going
> to change anybody's mind. So I realize that I'm typing just to see
> myself
> type. So with that in mind... :)
>
> My wife has asthma. She didn't used to have it. She wasn't born with
> it.
> (She may have had a genetic predisposition toward it. Who knows?) She
> developed it during her childhood. The doctors told her it was most
> like
> smoke-induced asthma. Her late father smoked heavily. She's actually
> somewhat allergic to cigarette smoke now. Just a little bit can cause
> her
> to feel like she can't breathe. If I've been out with friends who
> smoke or
> in a smoke-filled bar, I have to strip when I come home, toss my
> clothes in
> the washer, and shower. She can't stand the lingering smell of smoke
> on my
> clothes. So I usually avoid those situations.
>
> Nobody can say for sure if her condition was caused by living in a
> house
> with a smoker. They can't say it wasn't, either. After especially
> severe
> asthma attacks, she'll often mutter, "Thanks, Dad!"
>
> On the other hand, life is weird. Maybe her asthma stopped her from
> doing
> something that would have been worse for her. So it could be a
> blessing.
> :)
>
> I suspect that her dad would think twice about smoking around her if
> he had
> it to do over.
>
> --
> Eric
> http://canid.com/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:57:16 +0100 (BST)
> From: FRANK DERNIE <frank.dernie@btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] London tea
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <20040413105716.99316.qmail@web86211.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> No need, Lancashire won, the monarch is the Duke of
> Lancaster.
> Joking apart I was raised in Lancashire and did my
> apprenticeship in Yorkshire. Whilst there was much
> goodish natured banter anout the relative merits of
> Yorkshire and Lancashire it went without saying that
> ALL other counties were beneath contempt and came
> nowhere in the competition:-)
> Frank
>
> --- Eric C <eric.calderwood@btinternet.com> wrote: >
> Are you trying to re-ignite the War of the Roses?
>> ;-)
>>
>> Eric
>> (Liverpool UK)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/4/04 11:49 pm, "Douglas M. Sharp"
>> <DouglasMSharp@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Should anyone, by quirk of fate, find themselves
>> in the North of
>>> England, try Betty's in Harrogate, Yorkshire
>>> for a really refined Tea - Taylors Yorkshire Tea &
>> Tea Brack (a kind of
>>> fruit cake, served best with a piece of
>>> Wensleydale cheese) or try their Sloe Gin Cake,
>> MMMMH!! beats the Savoy
>>> and the Ritz into a cocked hat..
>>> The real Tea Experience is, however, the
>> "Yorkshire Farmhouse Tea"
>>> look out for signs outside farms and pubs. Home
>> smoked or boiled ham,
>>> haslet, fresh baked crusty bread, salted butter,
>>> local cheeses, salad,cheese scones followed by
>> masses of fruit cake,
>>> scones, rock buns, moggie (a kind of gingerbread)
>> and gallons
>>> of tea. Pick a place close to the local pub, at
>> least within crawling
>>> distance, you will get seriously overfed.
>>> For those who don't know the North of England, it
>> consists of Yorkshire
>>> (and a couple of other insignificant counties
>>> tacked on to its borders) ;-) I shall now seek
>> cover from irate
>>> Geordies, Lancastrians and the like.
>>> 'eers to me, thee an all on us
>>> Douglas ( an exiled Tyke in Germany)
>>>
>>> BTW The US harboured one of our exiles - Eric
>> Knight who wrote the "Sam
>>> Small" short stories for
>>> Harper's in the early 40s, came to later fame by
>> writing " Lassie Come
>>> Home" but tragically died in a plane
>>> crash before the film took the box-offices by
>> storm.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jimmy Patrick schrieb:
>>>
>>>> And I thought a buttie was on buttered bread, and
>> a bap was on a roll.
>>>>
>>>> The best butties are the late night chip butties
>> (fries on buttered bread)
>>>> with brown sauce.
>>>>
>>> Well known from the Beatles song "Penny Lane " -
>> now you know what
>>> "finger pies" are.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug
>> for more information
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for
>> more information
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:28:09 +0200 (W. Europe Standard Time)
> From: Daniel Ridings <daniel_ridings@yahoo.se>
> Subject: [Leica] Another one ... bites the dust
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.4.58.0404131324410.3616@hfb-ore2.hfstud.uio.no>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> It looks like another one is on its way of throwing in the
> towel to digital. It's been confirmed that Agfa will
> discontinue all film in 120 size. That's a pity. I rather
> liked their APX and RSX. It's just a matter of time before
> they even discontinue 35mm, I would think, so it's time to
> flee back to the yellow boxes. Fuji already left the market
> with their 120 size of Neopan 400 in Sweden.
>
> 400TX is looking better every day.
>
> Daniel Ridings
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:31:00 +0200 (W. Europe Standard Time)
> From: Daniel Ridings <daniel_ridings@yahoo.se>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Nathan's PAW 14: Amsterdam shopping
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <Pine.WNT.4.58.0404131330180.3616@hfb-ore2.hfstud.uio.no>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>> One of our favourite pastimes is to drive to Amsterdam on Sunday
>> afternoon and walk around with the occasional spot of shopping thrown
>> in. My daughter's biggest thrill is when I tell her, "We will go to
>> Waterstone's (the local English-language bookstore) and you have 50
>> EUR
>> to spend". She simply loves to read, not a bad habit in a 9-year old.
>> So, here is Monica choosing what to buy:
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2004/2004_14.jpg
>
> I'm stingy, Nathan. We have a very active account at the
> library (it has a lot of English books too).
>
> Nice shot!
>
> Daniel
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:22:37 EDT
> From: Gwpics@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another one ... bites the dust
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Message-ID: <b2.2a9421d8.2dad277d@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Just remember that Agfa in Europe are the largest manufacturers of 'own
> label' films for all the suoermarket chains etc. so I think the
> chances of them
> closing their 35mm filmproduction is a little way off yet!
> Gerry
> Gerry Walden LRPS
> _www.gwpics.com_ (http://www.gwpics.com/)
> +44 (0)23 8046 3076
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 04:57:43 -0700
> From: Doug Herr <telyt@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] PART 4: of Digilux 2.... THE FUN PART! :-)
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <BCA123C7.172D7%telyt@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> dibs on the SL mot
>
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>
>
> on 4/13/04 12:34 AM, Nathan Wajsman at n.wajsman@chello.nl wrote:
>
>> I demand the right of first refusal on his Nocti with the cow dung
>> aroma...
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> "Richard F. Man" wrote:
>>>
>>> So Ted, does that you will be selling off your Ms sooner than
>>> October? I'll
>>> be waiting in line :-)
>>>
>>> At 11:14 PM 4/12/2004 -0700, Ted Grant wrote:
>>>> ...I don't know what all the fuss is about, I'm having a great time
>>>> and
>>>> quite
>>>> astonishingly lucky to boot making some damn fine photographs, and
>>>> under
>>>> some conditions I'd probably not waste the time nor money to shoot
>>>> film. But
>>>> man I'm having fun and learning by doing!
>>>
>>> // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly,
>>> please
>>> use richard@imagecraft.com)
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:41:07 -0400
> From: Kyle Cassidy <KCassidy@asc.upenn.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Woah! Cassidy's back in the saddle! But nobody
> cares!
> To: "'lug@leica-users.org'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID:
> <7629EB4795F39146A4D2ECC655CD68EA012B353F@asc02.asc.upenn.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>> From: "Christopher Williams" <leicachris@worldnet.att.net>
>> Why Leica won't jump and grab Kyle for endorsements with the
>> D100 is anyone's guess. The dude's a frecking genius.
>
>>> Here's this weeks mighty Yaup:
>>>
>>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2281134
>>>
>>> After a slump, I feel I'm back in the game.
>>>
>>> Leica d100, 17mm strobe + hotlights. No photoshoppin.
>
> Actually, after john had me speak at the ICA a few years ago, Leica
> did sort
> of offer me a job, they called me, I called them, there was some
> personel
> changes and I never really kept up on it and it fell by the wayside.
>
> If anybody's dying to see my powerpoint slides from that talk, as I
> know you
> all are, they're here:
>
> http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/leicaslacker/lug2.ppt
>
> You may now return to your regularly scheduled discussion of domke
> bags.
>
> kc
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:44:08 +0100
> From: Eric C <eric.calderwood@btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] York v Lancaster London tea
> To: "Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <BCA19F28.2595B%eric.calderwood@btinternet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Now that we are to be European City of Culture in 2008, I think
> everywhere
> wants to be a suburb of Liverpool.
>
> And about time too. :-)
>
> All the Best
> Eric
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 13/4/04 11:33 am, "Douglas M. Sharp" <DouglasMSharp@netscape.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Na then, lad
>> That match was 1-1, until your lot got Henry VII in after extra time.
>> Richard III got sent off under mysterious circumstances
>> Isn't Lancashire a suburb of Liverpool ? ;-)
>> Douglas
>>
>> This is the way we find out where people come from,
>>
>> Eric C schrieb:
>>
>>> Are you trying to re-ignite the War of the Roses? ;-)
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> (Liverpool UK)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/4/04 11:49 pm, "Douglas M. Sharp" <DouglasMSharp@netscape.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> For those who don't know the North of England, it consists of
>>>> Yorkshire
>>>> (and a couple of other insignificant counties
>>>> tacked on to its borders) ;-) I shall now seek cover from irate
>>>> Geordies, Lancastrians and the like.
>>>> 'eers to me, thee an all on us
>>>> Douglas ( an exiled Tyke in Germany)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:44:23 +0200
> From: "Ruben" <ruben@rhodos.dk>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another one ... bites the dust
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <001b01c42155$0cdd8f40$3201a8c0@AUG01>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Agfa Scala is gone to - the LAB "Black and White" in Copenhagen will
> not
> develop them any more! It looks like Fuji is going to stay on the
> market
> for film for a while but I find their films a bit aggresive - shame
> about
> RSX II from Agfa -its a great film for fotographing fine art like
> paintings - has much more neutral colours then Kodak and Fuji
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Ridings" <daniel_ridings@yahoo.se>
> To: <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 1:28 PM
> Subject: [Leica] Another one ... bites the dust
>
>
>> It looks like another one is on its way of throwing in the
>> towel to digital. It's been confirmed that Agfa will
>> discontinue all film in 120 size. That's a pity. I rather
>> liked their APX and RSX. It's just a matter of time before
>> they even discontinue 35mm, I would think, so it's time to
>> flee back to the yellow boxes. Fuji already left the market
>> with their 120 size of Neopan 400 in Sweden.
>>
>> 400TX is looking better every day.
>>
>> Daniel Ridings
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 13:46:43 +0100
> From: Eric C <eric.calderwood@btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] London tea
> To: "Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <BCA19FC3.2595D%eric.calderwood@btinternet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> We don't like to brag about it. :-)
>
> Glad to hear that you were originally from Lancashire, all the best
> people
> are. :-)
>
> All the Best
> Eric
>
>
>
> On 13/4/04 11:57 am, "FRANK DERNIE" <frank.dernie@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> No need, Lancashire won, the monarch is the Duke of
>> Lancaster.
>> Joking apart I was raised in Lancashire and did my
>> apprenticeship in Yorkshire. Whilst there was much
>> goodish natured banter anout the relative merits of
>> Yorkshire and Lancashire it went without saying that
>> ALL other counties were beneath contempt and came
>> nowhere in the competition:-)
>> Frank
>>
>> --- Eric C <eric.calderwood@btinternet.com> wrote: >
>> Are you trying to re-ignite the War of the Roses?
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Eric
>>> (Liverpool UK)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/4/04 11:49 pm, "Douglas M. Sharp"
>>> <DouglasMSharp@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Should anyone, by quirk of fate, find themselves
>>> in the North of
>>>> England, try Betty's in Harrogate, Yorkshire
>>>> for a really refined Tea - Taylors Yorkshire Tea &
>>> Tea Brack (a kind of
>>>> fruit cake, served best with a piece of
>>>> Wensleydale cheese) or try their Sloe Gin Cake,
>>> MMMMH!! beats the Savoy
>>>> and the Ritz into a cocked hat..
>>>> The real Tea Experience is, however, the
>>> "Yorkshire Farmhouse Tea"
>>>> look out for signs outside farms and pubs. Home
>>> smoked or boiled ham,
>>>> haslet, fresh baked crusty bread, salted butter,
>>>> local cheeses, salad,cheese scones followed by
>>> masses of fruit cake,
>>>> scones, rock buns, moggie (a kind of gingerbread)
>>> and gallons
>>>> of tea. Pick a place close to the local pub, at
>>> least within crawling
>>>> distance, you will get seriously overfed.
>>>> For those who don't know the North of England, it
>>> consists of Yorkshire
>>>> (and a couple of other insignificant counties
>>>> tacked on to its borders) ;-) I shall now seek
>>> cover from irate
>>>> Geordies, Lancastrians and the like.
>>>> 'eers to me, thee an all on us
>>>> Douglas ( an exiled Tyke in Germany)
>>>>
>>>> BTW The US harboured one of our exiles - Eric
>>> Knight who wrote the "Sam
>>>> Small" short stories for
>>>> Harper's in the early 40s, came to later fame by
>>> writing " Lassie Come
>>>> Home" but tragically died in a plane
>>>> crash before the film took the box-offices by
>>> storm.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jimmy Patrick schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>> And I thought a buttie was on buttered bread, and
>>> a bap was on a roll.
>>>>>
>>>>> The best butties are the late night chip butties
>>> (fries on buttered bread)
>>>>> with brown sauce.
>>>>>
>>>> Well known from the Beatles song "Penny Lane " -
>>> now you know what
>>>> "finger pies" are.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug
>>> for more information
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for
>>> more information
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 14:00:37 +0200
> From: Nathan Wajsman <n.wajsman@chello.nl>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another one ... bites the dust
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <407BD665.1A6AC97E@chello.nl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi Ruben,
>
> That may be a consequence of the relatively small market for Scala in
> Denmark--I have no trouble buying Scala in Amsterdam, and can get same
> day processing from a lab here called s-Color. I will check with them,
> just to be sure...
>
> Nathan
>
> Ruben wrote:
>>
>> Agfa Scala is gone to - the LAB "Black and White" in Copenhagen will
>> not
>> develop them any more! It looks like Fuji is going to stay on the
>> market
>> for film for a while but I find their films a bit aggresive - shame
>> about
>> RSX II from Agfa -its a great film for fotographing fine art like
>> paintings - has much more neutral colours then Kodak and Fuji
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Daniel Ridings" <daniel_ridings@yahoo.se>
>> To: <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 1:28 PM
>> Subject: [Leica] Another one ... bites the dust
>>
>>> It looks like another one is on its way of throwing in the
>>> towel to digital. It's been confirmed that Agfa will
>>> discontinue all film in 120 size. That's a pity. I rather
>>> liked their APX and RSX. It's just a matter of time before
>>> they even discontinue 35mm, I would think, so it's time to
>>> flee back to the yellow boxes. Fuji already left the market
>>> with their 120 size of Neopan 400 in Sweden.
>>>
>>> 400TX is looking better every day.
>>>
>>> Daniel Ridings
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
> --
> Nathan Wajsman
> Almere, The Netherlands
>
> e-mail: n.wajsman@chello.nl
> Mobile: +31 630 868 671
>
> http://www.nathanfoto.com/index.html
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:11:58 -0600
> From: John Collier <jbcollier@shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] London tea
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <24C73838-8D4C-11D8-95DC-0050E42E6E0B@shaw.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
>
> Moggie is also an affectionate name owners use for their Morgan sports
> cars.
>
> John Collier
>
> hgis daed si retep
>
> On Apr 12, 2004, at 5:43 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>
>> Even though I lived and worked in Lancashire (Burnley), I cannot
>> disagree with your statements, except a MOGGIE is a CAT, not
>> gingerbread. You also left out Toffee Pudding.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:14:29 +0200
> From: Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] architecture
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <BCA1B455.203A%philippe.orlent@pandora.be>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Yes, is digital. It is possible, as you can see :)
>
>> From: Sam <sam@osheaven.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 05:17:28 -0400
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] architecture
>>
>> You found some beautiful lines, and the tones are right on. Is this
>> digital?
>>
>> Sam S
>>
>>
>> Philippe Orlent wrote:
>>
>>> I made a new folder with some shots I did:
>>>
>>> http://www.leica-gallery.net/phorlent/folder-6594.html
>>>
>>> Plz feel free to comment.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Philippe A. Orlent
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:06:10 -0500
> From: "lea" <lea@whinydogpress.com>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Woah! Cassidy's back in the saddle! But nobody
> cares!
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <03f101c42158$187e5e30$ce771a41@leaetrg64tja2w>
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>
> Excellent!
>
> Lea
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kyle Cassidy" <KCassidy@asc.upenn.edu>
> To: <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Woah! Cassidy's back in the saddle! But nobody
> cares!
>
>
>>> From: "Christopher Williams" <leicachris@worldnet.att.net>
>>> Why Leica won't jump and grab Kyle for endorsements with the
>>> D100 is anyone's guess. The dude's a frecking genius.
>>
>>>> Here's this weeks mighty Yaup:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2281134
>>>>
>>>> After a slump, I feel I'm back in the game.
>>>>
>>>> Leica d100, 17mm strobe + hotlights. No photoshoppin.
>>
>> Actually, after john had me speak at the ICA a few years ago, Leica
> did sort
>> of offer me a job, they called me, I called them, there was some
> personel
>> changes and I never really kept up on it and it fell by the wayside.
>>
>> If anybody's dying to see my powerpoint slides from that talk, as I
> know you
>> all are, they're here:
>>
>> http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/leicaslacker/lug2.ppt
>>
>> You may now return to your regularly scheduled discussion of domke
> bags.
>>
>> kc
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:15:18 +0200
> From: "Douglas M. Sharp" <DouglasMSharp@netscape.net>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] London tea
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <407BE7E6.8020204@netscape.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> John,
> ?fo eid eh did tahw, retep si ohw
>
> Douglas
>
> John Collier schrieb:
>
>> Moggie is also an affectionate name owners use for their Morgan sports
>> cars.
>>
>> John Collier
>>
>> hgis daed si retep
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2004, at 5:43 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>>
>>> Even though I lived and worked in Lancashire (Burnley), I cannot
>>> disagree with your statements, except a MOGGIE is a CAT, not
>>> gingerbread. You also left out Toffee Pudding.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 07:27:33 -0600
> From: John Collier <jbcollier@shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] London tea
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <520B550D-8D4E-11D8-95DC-0050E42E6E0B@shaw.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Peter Morgan, son of the founder of Morgan and a brilliant head of the
> company for many many years. Died of old age I expect. Charles Morgan
> is now in charge.
>
> Soichiro Honda once predicted that by a certain date there would only
> be five independent car companies left, he paused and then added, "and
> Morgan."
>
> John Collier
>
> On Apr 13, 2004, at 7:15 AM, Douglas M. Sharp wrote:
>
>> John,
>> ?fo eid eh did tahw, retep si ohw
>>
>> Douglas
>>
>> John Collier schrieb:
>>
>>> Moggie is also an affectionate name owners use for their Morgan
>>> sports cars.
>>>
>>> John Collier
>>>
>>> hgis daed si retep
>>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2004, at 5:43 PM, Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Even though I lived and worked in Lancashire (Burnley), I cannot
>>>> disagree with your statements, except a MOGGIE is a CAT, not
>>>> gingerbread. You also left out Toffee Pudding.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:30:57 -0500
> From: <grduprey@rockwellcollins.com>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot?
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Message-ID:
> <OF555FC5E7.CBB09059-ON86256E75.0049C7E1-
> 86256E75.004A3ED6@crnotes2.rockwellcollins.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
>
>
> Sounds like you need the 90 Summicron APO Asph., which is the same
> lens in
> both M and R mounts, and reported to be deadly sharp to the extreme.
>
> My 90 Elmarit R is my favorite R lens, for both sharpness and color
> saturation.
>
> Gene
>
>
>
> |---------+-------------------------------------------------------->
> | | "eric" <leica_korenman@hotmail.com> |
> | | Sent by: |
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> | | |
> | | |
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> |
> | cc:
> |
> | Subject: [Leica] R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot?
> |
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
>
>
>
> For the past year I have been shooting family and portrait work with
> an R7
> with 60mm Macro and 90mm Elmarit lenses.
> I have heard much praise on the LUG for the 90mm elmarit, but I just
> can't
> get my lens to 'sing' like my 60mm.
> Images always seems a bit too soft (well, yes compared to the razor
> sharp
> 60mm), but I like deadly sharp focus.
> Any suggestions? - I try to shoot the 90mm at 5.6. I am usually using
> strobes, so shutter speed is 1/100.
>
> thanks
> Eric
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:31:43 -0400
> From: "Phong" <phong@doan-ltd.com>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Woah! Cassidy's back in the saddle! But nobody
> cares!
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <BCEKKGNGDPMOIPMEJONBGEGAEFAA.phong@doan-ltd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Kyle Cassidy wrote:
>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2281134
>
> Kyle,
>
> You ought to post your photos more often on the LUG.
>
> I love the concept, the lighting, the executuion, the result
> on this one. One question though: why is the carpet runner not
> in the middle of the hall way ? Is there symbolism in that ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Phong
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:30:10 -0400
> From: "eric korenman" <leica_korenman@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot?
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Message-ID: <BAY10-F27or2KuPghz40001e702@hotmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> If perchance I was to investigate upgrading from my 90mm elmarit (non
> APO),
> would you consider the 90mm APO summicron?
> IE, what are the merits/demerits of the 90mm APO vs the 100mm APO
> elmarit?
>
> Anyone shot both?
>
> thanks
> Eric
>
>
>> From: Nathan Wajsman <n.wajsman@chello.nl>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot?
>> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:25:43 +0200
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Yes, the 100mm Apo Macro Elmarit is in my opinion the best lens in the
>> entire Leica lineup, M or R. It is totally sharp at all distances.
>> This
>> lens is the main reason why I own an R8, even though most of my
>> pictures
>> these days are taken with the M or CL cameras.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> eric wrote:
>>>
>>> responding to myself :
>>> If you like deadly sharp focus, would the 100mm apo lens be a better
>>> choice?
>>> Does it perform well at a distance, say past 20 feet?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> www.faneuil.net
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "eric" <leica_korenman@hotmail.com>
>>> To: "LUG" <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:06 AM
>>> Subject: [Leica] R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot?
>>>
>>>> For the past year I have been shooting family and portrait work
>>>> with
>> an
>>> R7
>>>> with 60mm Macro and 90mm Elmarit lenses.
>>>> I have heard much praise on the LUG for the 90mm elmarit, but I just
>> can't
>>>> get my lens to 'sing' like my 60mm.
>>>> Images always seems a bit too soft (well, yes compared to the razor
>> sharp
>>>> 60mm), but I like deadly sharp focus.
>>>> Any suggestions? - I try to shoot the 90mm at 5.6. I am usually
>>>> using
>>>> strobes, so shutter speed is 1/100.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> Eric
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>> --
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Almere, The Netherlands
>>
>> e-mail: n.wajsman@chello.nl
>> Mobile: +31 630 868 671
>>
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/index.html
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:39:32 -0400
> From: "Phong" <phong@doan-ltd.com>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] architecture
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <BCEKKGNGDPMOIPMEJONBOEGAEFAA.phong@doan-ltd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Philippe,
>
> Re. http://www.leica-gallery.net/phorlent/folder-6594.html
>
> Most excellent photos. My favorite is
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/phorlent/image-64242.html
> There is a Escherian disorientation about it. If you stare
> at it for a while, you are not sure which of the plane surface
> is the ceiling, florr, or wall. If I were doing levitation work
> a la Kyle, I may look into incorporating this sense of
> disorientation in the work.
>
> Great job.
>
> - Phong
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:30:45 -0500
> From: Clive Moss <chmphoto@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] architecture
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <407BEB85.4090902@sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Philippe Orlent said the following on 4/13/2004 2:47 AM:
>> I made a new folder with some shots I did:
>>
>> http://www.leica-gallery.net/phorlent/folder-6594.html
> ...
> Nice set
> http://www.leica-gallery.net/phorlent/image-64243.html
> is my favorite.
> --
> Clive
> http://clive.moss.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:43:58 -0500
> From: <grduprey@rockwellcollins.com>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Woah! Cassidy's back in the saddle! But nobody
> cares!
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Message-ID:
> <OFEAC0E583.18B06110-ON86256E75.004B251D-
> 86256E75.004B6FC9@crnotes2.rockwellcollins.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
>
>
> Kyle
>
> Nice slide show and straight to the point. As usual.
>
> Domke Bags? I'm thinking of getting one of the M Classic bags for the
> trip
> to Germany and Poland in December. Seems like the right bag for me,
> It and
> the small Tamarac shoulder bag I've been using.
>
> Gene
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:47:46 EDT
> From: SonC@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Leica] R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot?
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Message-ID: <a0.9fd4962.2dad4982@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Eric, when I had that lens, I found it performed best wide open or
> nearly
> so. It seemed to mush out a bit in the middle and stopped down
> apertures.
> Sonny
>
> For the past year I have been shooting family and portrait work with
> an R7
> with 60mm Macro and 90mm Elmarit lenses.
> I have heard much praise on the LUG for the 90mm elmarit, but I just
> can't
> get my lens to 'sing' like my 60mm.
> Images always seems a bit too soft (well, yes compared to the razor
> sharp
> 60mm), but I like deadly sharp focus.
> Any suggestions? - I try to shoot the 90mm at 5.6. I am usually using
> strobes, so shutter speed is 1/100.
>
> thanks
> Eric
> _______________________________________________
> Regards,
>
> Sonny
> _http://www.sonc.com_ (http://www.sonc.com/)
>
> "You can't always get what you want, but sometimes, if you try, you
> can get
> what you need" The Rolling Stones
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:52:36 +0200
> From: Philippe Orlent <philippe.orlent@pandora.be>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] architecture
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <BCA1BD44.2045%philippe.orlent@pandora.be>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Thank you for all your kind responses.
> ---
>> From: Clive Moss <chmphoto@sbcglobal.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:30:45 -0500
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] architecture
>>
>> Philippe Orlent said the following on 4/13/2004 2:47 AM:
>>> I made a new folder with some shots I did:
>>>
>>> http://www.leica-gallery.net/phorlent/folder-6594.html
>> ...
>> Nice set
>> http://www.leica-gallery.net/phorlent/image-64243.html
>> is my favorite.
>> --
>> Clive
>> http://clive.moss.net
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 06:54:14 -0700
> From: "Leonard J Kapner" <ljkapner@cox.net>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] PART 4: of Digilux 2.... THE FUN PART! :-)
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <004f01c4215e$ce7e4280$6501a8c0@len>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Friends,
>
> It occurs to me reading Ted's post that many of us, me included, spend
> too
> much time worrying about the minutae of photography and not enough time
> behind the viewfinder. It sounds as though Ted's having a LOT of fun
> with
> his new toys. I, for one, am jealous, but not of his new toys. It's
> the FUN
> he's having!
>
> Bless you for the insight, Ted. Today, I promise, I'm going to have
> some
> fun...
>
> Len
>
> --
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+ljkapner=cox.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+ljkapner=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Ted
> Grant
> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 11:15 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: [Leica] PART 4: of Digilux 2.... THE FUN PART! :-)
>
> B. D. said:
>> I have to say that I'm amused by the fact that on the one hand, people
> talking about wanting a camera that works like an M, doesn't have all
> the
> digifoldarol, etc. etc., and on the other someone's asking for a
> histogram
> superimposed on the viewfinder - talking about digifoldarol and not
> destroying the entire idea of that bright, clear, uncluttered
> viewfinder....:-)<<<
>
> Nathan Wajsman replied:
>> Not me, B.D., I don't want any histograms or anything else. My ideal
> digital camera would be just like an M, with a pure,
> optical,unadulterated
> viewfinder. All the electronic info can be relegated to the LCD.<<
>
> Hi Guys,
> Right on!!!!! :-)
>
> What I'm discovering about digital is quite interesting because so many
> folks are making a big kind of mystery out of it. When it isn't! When
> they
> should KISS it honey!
>
> It's just damn picture taking that puts images on a disk like film, it
> just
> holds captured moments. Neat thing is you get to see instant pictures
> for a
> short time until you realize yer pissing away hours looking at the
> screen
> instead of shooting!
>
> So why dig up histograms and other wiggilies that the techie people
> keep
> doing with film and mm thingies to sort out lenses. Take pictures and
> stop
> screwing around!
>
> If one casts aside 99% of the digi buttons and other switches and
> thinks...
> "set this sucker on full auto everything" and blasts away having fun,
> I've
> found 99.999999% of what I've shot with the Canon G5 and now blazing a
> trail
> through the night sky with a Digilux 2 is all quite incredible. Quite
> good
> actually! ;-)
>
> Histogram? hell that's some kind of mountainous looking thing best left
> untouched unless yer a bear for techie stuff and mind bending. Hell by
> the
> time one fiddles with that I'd have two, 256 cards filled with magical
> moments! :-)
>
> See this is the difference with me and many other folks, I've always
> taken
> pictures knowing the least amount of technical stuff because that's
> all a
> big pain in the ass to read and learn when I could be out clicking away
> having a ball.
>
> In the beginning I swore I'd approach digital photography
> differently.Right?
> You know after all these years of clicking shutters and burning film
> I'm
> supposed to be wiser therefore read the digi manuals and do it right
> like
> others.
>
> I got lost the first few pages never mind chapters of gobbily gook
> words I
> don't understand what they're supposed to do nor mean. So it came down
> to..."how to turn it on? How to make it show you pictures? How not to
> delete
> things accidentely? Gues what? Generally it worked fine.
>
> Oh yeah ... "How to set everything to auto?" God you have to love it,
> sure
> beats the hell out of knocking yerself out reading manuals, histograms
> and
> getting the "look at the screen every twenty second twitches after an
> exposure is made!"
>
> See picture taking is supposed to be fun, otherwise why the hell do it
> and I
> mean whether yer making a living or just plain all out good old
> fashion fun.
>
> So the less you worry yerself with the digital jargon and get out
> taking
> "auto-pictures" why hell you'll have more fun than a dozen cats in
> heat!
>
> I don't know what all the fuss is about, I'm having a great time and
> quite
> astonishingly lucky to boot making some damn fine photographs, and
> under
> some conditions I'd probably not waste the time nor money to shoot
> film. But
> man I'm having fun and learning by doing!
>
> Histograms? I don't need no "steeenkin histograms!" ;-)
>
> However, I would appreciate a better viewfinder on the digi 2!
>
> ted
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:22:24 -0400
> From: Aaron Sandler <aaron.sandler@duke.edu>
> Subject: [Leica] Hardly seems worth it.
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID:
> <5.1.0.14.0.20040413101317.02c7c950@mail-aj.acpub.duke.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> After all the recent excellent postings (especially Philippe's
> architecture
> shots and Kyle's murder scene and slideshow), my photos this week seem
> to
> be something of a let-down. But, as Kyle rightly pointed out: "If
> you're
> not good, you have an obligation to get better." Or at least to keep
> trying. :)
>
> So, in the spirit of attempting a very little bit of sociology ("The
> Behavior of Men"), I present this week's PAW triptych:
>
> http://www.duke.edu/~ajs2/PAW/2004_15/index.html
>
> Feel free to respond or not,
> Aaron
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:06:33 -0500
> From: Clive Moss <chmphoto@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Woah! Cassidy's back in the saddle! But nobody
> cares!
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Message-ID: <407BF3E9.8070208@sbcglobal.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Kyle Cassidy said the following on 4/13/2004 7:41 AM:
>
> ...
>> If anybody's dying to see my powerpoint slides from that talk, as I
>> know you
>> all are, they're here:
>>
>> http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/leicaslacker/lug2.ppt
>>
>> You may now return to your regularly scheduled discussion of domke
>> bags.
> ...
> Great presentation!
> My simple question under the subject "Yet another bag question" last
> week resulted in about 75 responses. The question was "where do folk
> that carry a Leica everywhere carry it?" (where picture taking is not
> the main activity)
> The answers, roughly tabulated in order of frequency:
> 1. General discussion mostly related to US vs British English: ~ 35
> 2. Some form of Domke bag: ~ 10
> 3. Some cheap bag: ~ 7
> 4. No bag -- over the shoulder: ~ 7
> 5. Some form of fanny pack (See 1. above): ~ 5
> 6. Some expensive bag: < 5
> 7. Some expensive strap (UpStrap): < 5
> 8. EverReady case: 1
> 9. Taken something smaller that fits in something you have with you: 1
>
> Thanks to all who responded.
>
> For those who wish to do further research on (1.) I recommend "What's
> the difference? - An American/British.British/American Dictionary" - by
> Norman Moss.
>
> --
> Clive
> http://clive.moss.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 10:10:54 -0400
> From: "Don Dory" <dorysrus@mindspring.com>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot?
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
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> Eric,
> I must admit astonishment that your 90 Elmarit R is soft. I have one
> of
> the 90's for the original Leicaflex and put up with stop down metering
> for the sharpness of the image. I also use the current Elmarit for the
> M line and it is also faultless (very similar optics to the R lens). I
> can only conclude that your sample is somehow lacking.
>
> With all that said, you requested info about the APO lenses so:
> The 100 is a macro, has a really long helical and consequently images
> come into focus slowly. This is a good thing for macro, not so good
> for
> general purpose photography. As others have said, it is very crisp at
> all apertures and at all distances.
>
> The 90 APO is slightly smaller than the 100, doesn't focus as close
> (duh), does give you a really useful F2. Like all Leica APO lenses, it
> is useable at all apertures providing stunning images if you do your
> job.
>
> Really, you are going to have to try both, it truly comes down to
> handling. The images each can produce are near diffraction limited.
>
> Don
> dorysrus@mindspring.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of eric korenman
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:30 AM
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot?
>
> If perchance I was to investigate upgrading from my 90mm elmarit (non
> APO),
> would you consider the 90mm APO summicron?
> IE, what are the merits/demerits of the 90mm APO vs the 100mm APO
> elmarit?
>
> Anyone shot both?
>
> thanks
> Eric
>
>
>> From: Nathan Wajsman <n.wajsman@chello.nl>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot?
>> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:25:43 +0200
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Yes, the 100mm Apo Macro Elmarit is in my opinion the best lens in the
>> entire Leica lineup, M or R. It is totally sharp at all distances.
>> This
>> lens is the main reason why I own an R8, even though most of my
> pictures
>> these days are taken with the M or CL cameras.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> eric wrote:
>>>
>>> responding to myself :
>>> If you like deadly sharp focus, would the 100mm apo lens be a
> better
>>> choice?
>>> Does it perform well at a distance, say past 20 feet?
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> www.faneuil.net
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "eric" <leica_korenman@hotmail.com>
>>> To: "LUG" <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 6:06 AM
>>> Subject: [Leica] R 90mm Elmarit's sweet spot?
>>>
>>>> For the past year I have been shooting family and portrait work
> with
>> an
>>> R7
>>>> with 60mm Macro and 90mm Elmarit lenses.
>>>> I have heard much praise on the LUG for the 90mm elmarit, but I
> just
>> can't
>>>> get my lens to 'sing' like my 60mm.
>>>> Images always seems a bit too soft (well, yes compared to the
> razor
>> sharp
>>>> 60mm), but I like deadly sharp focus.
>>>> Any suggestions? - I try to shoot the 90mm at 5.6. I am usually
> using
>>>> strobes, so shutter speed is 1/100.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> Eric
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>> --
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Almere, The Netherlands
>>
>> e-mail: n.wajsman@chello.nl
>> Mobile: +31 630 868 671
>>
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/index.html
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