Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/06

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Subject: [Leica] Leica Digilux 2 @ 1600 :-)
From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge)
Date: Mon Sep 6 21:21:15 2004
References: <CC0EBB4C-FD51-11D8-B2A1-0003938051BC@snet.net> <C7A04B3C91C7F9AD527C38F8@hindolveston.reid.org> <000401c4917a$9c3fa1b0$87d86c18@ted> <41381876.3060303@netscape.net> <001401c491f8$f2ab5c50$87d86c18@ted> <2A8234ED-FE36-11D8-BDEB-000A95CD9BF8@mac.com> <003901c4947f$169f90d0$87d86c18@ted>

To my eye there's a real difference between grain, as you see in say
Tri-X pushed to 800, and digital  noise. Maybe it's just that I'm used
to seeing the grain in film...but I find it much more pleasant than
the noise in a digital image. For one thing there's a subtle pattern
to digital noise - it happens on the pixel sites - while film grain
has a randomness to it that is much more, well, natural, or perhaps
less ordered, than digital noise.

Adam


On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 19:05:03 -0700, Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Marc Attinasi asked:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Digilux 2 @ 1600 :-)
> 
> 
> > How was the auto-focus in such low light? Is manual focus at all useful
> > on the Digilux 2 in very low light?<<<<<
> 
> Hi Marc,
> It worked just fine. I don't bother with manual focus as quite frankly it's
> a visual pain in the ass! :-) Besides the autofocus works very well and
> quickly.
> 
> > I've used the Canon DRebel at ISO 800, underexposing by several stops
> > shooting night scenes. The shadow noise just kills me - have to find
> > one of those magic filters I guess.<<<
> 
> Well the Digi 2 is very quiet and I've not heard any noise so far. ;-) ;-)
> However, the slight appearance of a "grain like effect" is minimal. It's
> like I've said, I don't know what the heck I'm doing different from others
> but the "grain like effect" shows very little. And where it does, it's
> similar to say Tri-x pushed a couple of stops. Therefore it's not an
> uncommon appearance and acceptable.
> 
> ted
> 
> 
> 
> 
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