Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/01/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]What about the shot of all those children playing, with the big fat man walking by? That's gotta be called weird! -dan c. At 01:31 PM 04-01-05 -0500, Jim Hemenway wrote: >Calling Sir "Buzz of Belmont"! :-) > > > > shape, form, shadow, odd juxtaposition of objects..... > >But BD, did you see _incongruous_ juxtaposition when you saw those >large prints? > >And... there isn't any "weird" in HCB's work... at least none that I can >remember. I've always thought that any surreal art needs to be a little >bit weird. > >I don't mean the now common usage of the word surreal to mean almost >anything unexpected and/or different. > >Jim > > > > >B. D. Colen wrote: >> BUZZ!!!! Get your butt in here!!! :-) >> >> In fact, HCB himself has been quoted as saying that around the time of >> the founding of Magnum, the late Robert Capa "...was very wise. He told >> me not to >> call myself a surrealist, but instead, a photojournalist." >> >> I admit that I had some trouble getting my brain around this idea, >> focused as I was on HCB's subject manner. But then I saw some classic >> HCB images blown up to slide screen size - and BINGO! There is was - >> shape, form, shadow, odd juxtaposition of objects..... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of >> Jim Hemenway >> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:49 AM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] WAS: Intro NOW: HCB. >> >> >> I don't think of him a surrealist with a camera BD... a painter with a >> camera perhaps, or maybe a sociologist with a camera? :-) >> >> Parke-Harrison are surrealists with a camera: >> http://www.bonnibenrubi.com/Parkeharrison/parkeharrison.html >> http://www.parkeharrison.com/ >> http://www.decordova.org/decordova/exhibit/parkeharrison/parkeharrison04 >> .html >> >> Jim >> >> >> B. D. Colen wrote: >> >> >>>True enough. The other thing to keep in mind when thinking about HCB >>>is that while we may be looking to capture something about the human >>>condition, he was looking to capture something having to do with form, >> >> >>>shape and light. Not to start the surrealist thread again, but >>>Gdamnit, he was not a PJ - although he did some PJ - he was a >>>surrealist with a camera. >>> >>>B. D. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org >>>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >>>Of Ted Grant >>>Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:32 AM >>>To: Leica Users Group >>>Subject: [Leica] WAS: Intro NOW: HCB. >>> >>> >>>B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> >>>To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> >>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:13 PM >>>Subject: RE: Re: [Leica] Intro >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I'd argue that the "decisive moment" was that instant in which he saw, >>> >>> >>>>or anyone sees, the possibilities in a particular setting or >>>>situation. He didn't see a guy in mid-jump across a puddle and shoot - >>> >>> >>>>he saw a puddle and the possibilities it presented; he didn't see >>>>someone on a given staircase - he saw the staircase, and waited for >>>>the right person in the right position. Others of just might have shot >>> >>> >>>>a puddle, or a staircase. ;-)<< >>> >>> >>>And because he was a consummate artist he would see elements in a >>>street >>> >>>scene and know one element was missing just by looking. However, the >>>gift he had was to see and then wait for the one element that created >>>the "Decisive >>>moment." >>> >>>The rest of us see things and capture good photo moments, but he had >>>this ability to see something good and yet know it required one tiny >>>extra thing >>>or wait the moment longer to make it the perfect picture if you like. >>> >>> >>> >>>>>he didn't see someone on a >>>> >>>>given staircase - he saw the staircase, and waited for the right >>>>person in the right position. ;-)<< >>> >>> >>>Absolutely! As that's one of the gifts he had, was to wait for the >>>icing on the cake to make it perfect. But most of all he had the >>>patience to wait. >>>The rest of us are always in a hurry to go some place, either to work, >>>going >>>to the Mall or wherever and our pictures quite often are a grabbed >>>moment >>>instead of seeing the complete moment by waiting a few minutes or >> >> longer >> >>>for >>>the filling in the cake to make it great! >>> >>>ted >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >