Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/04/28

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Subject: [Leica] digital transformation
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (TED GRANT)
Date: Thu Apr 28 21:41:09 2005

Excuse me folks it seems when we get into to this kind of comparison thing 
it's pointless!  WHY? Well you are there, others are every place else and 
unless you are standing side by each with your prints it doesn't matter a 
whit who likes what or not! Or how the print looks.

Let me put it this way, certainly as a professional photographer 
.............it's the client who pays the bill that counts!  And as long as 
they think and believe your photograph is brilliant it doesn't matter what 
any two or three other folks think or believe in the world of reality!

You guys may not like the look of a digital print,your perogative, but that 
doesn't mean another photographer can't make a beautiful "can't tell the 
difference print" off a digital printer.

This is no different than one guy can't shoot worth a damn with an R Leica, 
but smokes everyone else with an M. Does that make his pictures any less 
quality? 

What I find so time consumming and wasteful is, the constant banter of "my 
print is better than yours" because I did it in a tray and a machine did 
yours! Surely someday you folks will learn that it's to each his own and as 
long as you as the producer of the photograph and the print, most certainly 
your buyer is happy. Who cares how the print was made?

Does it not come down to, you like it or you don'tlike it. But don't waste 
your time whipping on the other guy because he prints off a machine with ink!

In actual fact you are both right, but neither of you are right if you 
continue to shoot down the other guy because he prints off a machine or in a 
tray!

I look at it this way, we are producing beautiful B&W prints from our 2200 
Epson printer, clients are framing them and hanging them in their homes and 
offices, so my question is............what more do you want?

Absolutely do not come back and say "your clients do not know what they're 
talking about!"

We also produce beautiful fullcolour prints that are matted,framed and hung! 
As far as I'm concerned it's the ability of the machine operator who 
produces the prints no different to the guy in the darkroom with his or her 
hands in the developer tray!

ted




----- Original Message -----
From: Richard <richard-lists@imagecraft.com>
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:04 am
Subject: RE: [Leica] digital transformation

> Either that or if something has a B&W enlarger around SF Bayarea, 
> I can 
> send him my neg :-)
> 
> Or I can ask Keeble and Shucat to make a B&W print...
> 
> At 09:38 AM 4/28/2005, you wrote:
> 
> >B.D.,
> >
> >Since your posting style is both prolific and combative, 
> sometimes people 
> >are hesitant to believe you. If you've got a pair of prints like 
> this (one 
> >RC, one on your HP inkjet) maybe you could give them or show them 
> to other 
> >nearby LUGgers who could offer their opinion.
> >
> >
> >
> >>Sorry to disagree, Robert - But they are interchangeable with 
> wet RC
> >>prints with similar finish. Fiber, of course not. But RC? Try 
> showing>>someone who is not a darkroom junkie two prints side by 
> side and they
> >>will have no idea which is which. My guess is either would you 
> if you
> >>didn't have the paper in your hand. ;-)
> >
> 
> // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, 
> please 
> use richard at imagecraft.com) 
> 
> 
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