Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/07/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]At 11:43 PM 7/26/2005, you wrote: >Richard, > >It is not the price tag I find out of line, but the combination of the >price tag and the problems you have had. If I buy a camera for $3K I >expect it to work perfectly out of the box and to stay that way for the >duration of a reasonable service life (barring user abuse etc.). I agree. I have thought about returning for some money back, but then what? I am still have no digital RF that takes Leica lens then :-) >When/if Leica comes out with its digital M, I will certainly consider it >very carefully, but I will not plonk down any cash until you and >others have beta-tested it for me ;-) Nah, I won't be the first. My digital needs are sated with the R-D1, at least for a while. Some one else will have to be the trailblazers next time. I will probably be still fiddling around looking for that "perfect" B&W film :-) See, there is some method to my madness - spent $3000 now (or 8 months ago), and I am good to go until the Leica digital M is battle proven... in 2007 or 2008! (assuming there is still a Leica Camera Inc. by then...) >Nathan > >Richard wrote: > >>I am glutton for punishment? >>Well, think of it this way - for "business" reasons, you know, the >>business where I made $250 a year taking pictures of costumers, I need a >>digital camera. Yes, I know, a Canon Drebel 350XT will probably do the >>job as well for $600 or whatever but, well, I have expensive taste. So >>anyway, the only way to use my Leica M lens on a digital body right now >>is the R-D1. If Leica has swallowed their >>pride/stupidity/moron-managers/etc. and came up with a relatively easy to >>do 1.5 crop factor digital rangefinder earlier, instead of jumping up and >>down for 10 years claiming it can't be done, they could have my $3000. >>This is what happens in a monopoly. If you are the only game in town, you >>can charge whatever you want. The Canon 30D was... $3000 too, being the >>first "affordable" high megapixel DSLR, so Epson in that sense isn't too >>far out of line. >> >>At 10:37 PM 7/26/2005, Nathan Wajsman wrote: >> >>>Sorry, but I find it amazing that anyone would accept having to send in >>>a camera for repair/replacement 3 times and then accept that he has to >>>adjust the rangefinder on the 4th body--and all that while taking on >>>average 1500 or so images with each camera? If your experience is >>>typical, then I can only conclude that the RD1 is a $3K piece of junk. >>>If it is not, then you are certainly the most tolerant customer I have >>>ever heard about in any business. If I had this type of trouble, I would >>>track down the Cosina distributor and organize a public destruction of >>>the camera in front of their building, a la Ted Grant with one of his >>>Leicas that also had QC problems. >>> >>>Nathan >>> >>>Richard wrote: >>> >>>>Peter, as we go way back, you know I still have my OM-4T in the drawer >>>>with half a dozen of lenses. I have thoughts about selling the 40/2 and >>>>others to fund some Leica lust, but decided against it. Anyway, I have >>>>a number of friends who got the 20D, 350XT, and even a couple 1Ds, D70 >>>>etc. For me though, I bought the R-D1 and never wish I have a DSLR. I >>>>guess if I shoot more sports or other things than SLR excels in, it >>>>would be different, but the R-D1 satisfies my meager needs for a >>>>digital camera. The QC issues are real. I am REALLY happy that I can >>>>adjust the vertical VF without sending this last camera (my 4th one) >>>>in. All told, I took > 2000 pics on this one already, meaning I have >>>>taken ~6000-7000 on four R-D1s since I bought the first one last >>>>Thanksgiving. Most are crap pictures of course but it works as well as >>>>any digital RF can, at least until Leica releases its mega expensive >>>>M-D1 or the fabled Zeiss Ikon (we can only hope). >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Nathan Wajsman >>>Almere, The Netherlands >>> >>>General photography: http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>Seville photography: http://www.fotosevilla.com >>>Stock photography: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman >>>http://myloupe.com/home/found_photographer.php?photographer=507 >>>Prints for sale: http://www.photodeluge.com >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>// richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please >>use richard at imagecraft.com) >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >-- >Nathan Wajsman >Almere, The Netherlands > >General photography: http://www.nathanfoto.com >Seville photography: http://www.fotosevilla.com >Stock photography: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman >http://myloupe.com/home/found_photographer.php?photographer=507 >Prints for sale: http://www.photodeluge.com > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, please use richard at imagecraft.com)