Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/10/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Now Harvey Wasn't there a discussion the other day about fat America? The corporate farmers feed the livestock hormones to make them fat. America women eat too much and they begin to resemble ??? Well, you are what you eat but I won't eat no damned gun nut!. H. Ball Arche wrote: >And then fed to the Vegans. > >--- Buzz Hausner <buzz.hausner@verizon.net> wrote: > > > >>Gun owners should be lined up against a wall and >>shot. >> >> Buzz >> >> >>On 10/19/06 7:38 PM, "Philip Forrest" >><photo.forrest@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>>I think that owning an assault rifle for home >>> >>> >>defense is impractical, yes. >> >> >>>However, if one believes in protecting oneself, >>> >>> >>family and property, law >> >> >>>enforcement doesn't do that for you. There is no >>> >>> >>reason that a law abiding >> >> >>>citizen cannot responsibly own and use a firearm >>> >>> >>of any type (small arms >> >> >>>here, not artillery pieces & the like.) I love >>> >>> >>target shooting and though I >> >> >>>don't know if it should be considered a "sport" it >>> >>> >>certainly requires great >> >> >>>discipline and training to be able to consistently >>> >>> >>and accurately place >> >> >>>shots on target. It's just a step below golf in >>> >>> >>it's level of discipline >> >> >>>and ability, but much the same when it comes to >>> >>> >>the final goal. >> >> >>>Fear is what drives irrational decisions. A gun >>> >>> >>will not shoot itself, we >> >> >>>all know this. The only way a firearm will do >>> >>> >>what it's supposed to is if a >> >> >>>person operating it makes it work. Fear is what >>> >>> >>needs to be overcome by >> >> >>>people who don't know anything about firearms. >>> >>> >>They should be shown that a >> >> >>>firearm is just a tool, the same way that a torque >>> >>> >>wrench is a tool. They >> >> >>>have very specific purposes, but both are tools >>> >>> >>nonetheless. >> >> >>>I have no problem with people who don't like guns, >>> >>> >>but for rational reasons. >> >> >>>Anti-gun folks need to come up with real and >>> >>> >>equitable solutions to the >> >> >>>problems they have that will WORK. There will >>> >>> >>never be a United States >> >> >>>where firearm ownership is not a right, so that >>> >>> >>side of the gun argument >> >> >>>needs to come up with a realistic solution to the >>> >>> >>problems they have with >> >> >>>firearms. The AWB proved that gun violence did >>> >>> >>not decrease during the 10 >> >> >>>years it was effective. 10 rounds in the magazine >>> >>> >>or 100 rounds, it doesn't >> >> >>>matter. Assault weapons are used in so few crimes >>> >>> >>as to be a blip on the >> >> >>>radar in comparison to the gun related crimes >>> >>> >>committed with Raven .25's or >> >> >>>other cheap guns. The average assault weapon >>> >>> >>starts at about $600. Few if >> >> >>>any criminals are going to be willing to put that >>> >>> >>kind of money into a >> >> >>>firearm when they could get a cheap pistol for >>> >>> >>$30. >> >> >>>The only way that crime with firearms is to be >>> >>> >>quelled is by large scale >> >> >>>changes in society. People need to be educated >>> >>> >>about firearms, the law and >> >> >>>how with a lot of cooperation, we can turn the gun >>> >>> >>related violence around. >> >> >>>Many parents view themselves as responsible when >>> >>> >>teaching their children >> >> >>>about sex, birth control and parenting, right? >>> >>> >>(not as many as need to be >> >> >>>though) Why wouldn't someone want to teach a >>> >>> >>person how to properly and >> >> >>>safely handle a firearm? We teach people how to >>> >>> >>safely drive cars every >> >> >>>day. Still the vehicular fatality statistics in >>> >>> >>this country are several >> >> >>>times the gun related fatality numbers. >>>The last issue I don't like is the anti-gun group >>> >>> >>playing upon that very >> >> >>>fear and lack of knowledge by saying things like >>> >>> >>"...it might go off. Six >> >> >>>blocks away someone's family member could be >>> >>> >>holding their insides in their >> >> >>>hands.." This little bit of editorial journalism >>> >>> >>is just what people like >> >> >>>myself don't want to read or hear. It uses that >>> >>> >>fear of the unknowing to >> >> >>>suggest that there is a gun (not artillery) that a >>> >>> >>person could buy these >> >> >>>days, shoot, and eviscerate an innocent person a >>> >>> >>half mile away. Yes, >> >> >>>people do get shot from stray rounds landing >>> >>> >>through their windows and >> >> >>>roofs. This is an amazingly small number of >>> >>> >>people. Most wounds are >> >> >>>superficial. And surely, there is not a small arm >>> >>> >>available to the public >> >> >>>at this time that could do such a thing. Most >>> >>> >>small arms up to and >> >> >>>including the .50 cal BMG only produce small, >>> >>> >>oblong holes at their tumbling >> >> >>>worst. I'm not condoning any of this, of course. >>> >>> >>I don't support gun >> >> >>>related violence or the wounding of innocent >>> >>> >>people at all, I'm just saying >> >> >>>that a bit of exaggeration, or a lot, is not a >>> >>> >>good thing when it comes to >> >> >>>this topic. >>>OK, I've written far too much for sure. >>> >>>Philip >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for >>more information >> >> >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >