Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/01/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Mehrdad, People buy a Rolex/Porsche etc to announce to the world that they have arrived. Otherwise they use Timex/Toyota (or whatever). I notice that Leica has stepped up advertising for the M8 considerably in magazines like GQ/Esquire/Mens Vogue, rather than photography magazines, with slick arty ads. Which market do you think they are after? Cheers Jayanand On 1/11/07, mehrdad <msadat@gmail.com> wrote: > > B.D. i think you are more stuck in the name and in particular this > "leica name " every time there is a praise of a leica something you > go off thinking that everybody is under some sort spell and the magic > red dot makes people say good things. > > i shoot with more camera brands and lenses than anybody i know ( i > love gadgets), and so far i have been very pleased with the images > from the M8. i have also been shooting with the pentax k10d and some > the pentax prime lenses; oh boy this might be one the best. i have > recently bought couple of sigma lenses for in the 4/3 mount and the > results have been stunning also. > > Price is very deceiving these days, both a $20 times and $20k rolex > tell the time and both very accurate, why do some people buy a rolex? > the same is true about honda element (my favorite car) and a Porsche > turbo, both take you place one costs 9 times more. i think price these > days is more of a differentiator of class and not quality any more. by > the way canon g7 is just awesome and in this list i talk about mostly > about leica. > > > On 1/10/07, B. D. Colen <bd@bdcolenphoto.com> wrote: > > But if precisely the same $4800 camera - looked and felt like a film M, > nice > > bright viewfinder, solidly built, M lens mount, 10 mpg - with precisely > the > > same problems - electronic but no dust or moisture seals, banding, IR > > weirdness, green blobs, questionable battery life, need for IR cut-off > > filters on lenses, noise levels much, much higher than Canon's, etc. > etc. - > > were manufactured by Nikon, Canon, Cosina, or Zeiss for that matter, > would > > you still call it "a great camera and worth the extra learning curve?" > > > > > > On 1/10/07 1:24 PM, "mehrdad" <msadat@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > despite, all of the problems, it is a great camera and worth the > > > learning curve extra cost. > > > > > > On 1/10/07, Colin J <smcj35@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> Eric Korenman wrote: > > >>> > > >>> The recent article in LFI about the M8 takes on three major issues: > > >>> > > >>> 1) IR - they explain it well and the steps to deal with it. > > >>> > > >>> 2) Banding - they say it was fixed in the hardware upgrade > > >>> > > >>> 3) 8 / 16 bit capture.. > > >>> > > >>> ..Well here is where I think they turn on the smoke machine and > bring in > > >>> some mirrors. > > >>> They present information about how the data is compressed by the > square root > > >>> , > > >>> but when it comes down to it, it still sounds like a form of lossy > data > > >>> compression. > > >>> > > >>> IE, The chip captures 14 bit data, crunches it to a non-linear 8 > bit form, > > >>> which is latter re-expanded > > >>> to bit to form the final 16 bit image file. > > >>> > > >>> So.. Isn't the weakest link in the imaging processing chain an 8 bit > format? > > >>> LFI then goes on to say essentially "you won't see the difference > anyway" > > >>> > > >>> Anyone care to help on the matter? I am missing the point? > > >> > > >> > > >> Eric, > > >> > > >> The only point you are missing is that no-one should question or > criticise > > >> the Leica M8 on this mailing list. We should always be supporting > Leica > > >> instead, and saying only nice things about the M8 ... > > >> > > >> ... like Mr Erwin Puts is now doing, now he is back on the payroll. > > >> > > >> Yours with a wry smile (because we are not permitted to laugh), > > >> > > >> Colin > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Leica Users Group. > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------- > regards, mehrdad > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >