Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/02/28

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Subject: [Leica] Zeiss-Ikon RF
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu Feb 28 07:20:39 2008
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On Feb 28, 2008, at 4:58 AM, G Hopkinson wrote:

> Didier, my calculations were on Aussie prices and my view is that a  
> good used Leica M is a valid alternative to a new ZI. Yes on new
> to new price comparisons the Leica M's clearly cost more. With a  
> price ceiling and only comparing new to new, then I think that the
> Cosina Voigtlanders are excellent value too. Coming from the same  
> factory, I don't think that the ZI should cost more than twice as
> much as the CV. Absolutely it is personal opinion what each  
> individual considers the most important factors. Price, warranty,
> reliability, features, user experience, brand, etc. For similar  
> amounts of money, my choice has been used Leica over new anything
> else. Certainly new Leica bodies cost a lot. I just got the bill for  
> my very first new M body! Also though in my experience, having
> paid considerable sums for used Leica equipment, I have found its  
> retained value to be very good when the time comes to upgrade. I
> agree with Steve. Having said that, I think that the Zeiss ZM lenses  
> are superb quality and valid alternatives to the Leica glass.
> If there are any ZI owners on the list it will be very interesting  
> to hear their opinions/experiences in reply to Ernie's original
> post. I wouldn't want to divert his thread any more.

as I noted, the ZI is a fine camera...with a great viewfinder...easier  
to focus... cheaper, go for it regardless of lens issues...whether  
leica M or ZM or CV...they all work fine on it...and imo they don't  
influence the decision,


Steve


>
> Regards
> Geoff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Zeiss-Ikon RF
>
> Agreed, but as an individual with a certain amount of money to spend  
> I'd
> have to weigh up all those factors and make a decision to purchase  
> new or
> used.
>
> Personally given the choice of a new Zeiss or a used M6/7 I'd chose  
> the
> Leica.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 28/2/08 11:10, "Didier Ludwig" <leica@screengang.com> wrote:
>
>> Hoppy
>>
>> I can't follow your calculations fully. You should compare prices  
>> used to used
>> and new to new, not cross over. Otherwise the comparisons get quite  
>> useless as
>> there's to much space for flexible interpretation.
>
>
>
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In reply to: Message from leica at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig) ([Leica] Zeiss-Ikon RF)
Message from lug at steveunsworth.co.uk (Steve Unsworth) ([Leica] Zeiss-Ikon RF)
Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson) ([Leica] Zeiss-Ikon RF)