Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/09/28
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Is there any significant difference, image-wise, in the Canadian vs German cron 50? Or between the 2-cam and 3-cam versions? Since I'll be using this on a Canon body with adapter, I assume the 2-cam and 3-cam will both work equally well. Jim On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> wrote: > More bokeh cron 50 and elmarit 60 takes here, plus various D-Leica, > Ang?nieux and Oly flowers > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/album368/Kenzonian+Bokeh+_1+sur+1_.jpg.html > > This one is a fairly relevant example of the sharpness and flaws of the > lens, I guess > http://gallery.leica-users.org/d/164790-1/FF-Iris-For+Missus-original-1090999-2.jpg > > Hard to tell what bokeh means by the way. > Depends on what and how you want to shoot too. > > Bien cordialement de Metz > Philippe > > > Jim Nichols wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> >> Yes, if you are referring to the yellow lily, I beleive it is typical of >> the Summicron. ?There is one other in the gallery, made with the >> Summicron, >> that I feel is the best that I have achieved. The link is below: >> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Rhody+by+Summicron.tif.html >> >> I don't think this lens will disappoint you. >> >> Jim Nichols >> Tullahoma, TN USA >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Laird" <digiratidoc at >> gmail.com> >> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Better bokeh? >> >> >>> Jim, >>> >>> I think the bokeh in your first Summicron image is superb. Is this >>> typical with this lens in your experience? >>> >>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Yellow+Lily+2.tif.html> >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at >>> lighttube.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Jim, >>>> >>>> Prior to getting the Leica-R lenses, I was experimenting with some >>>> Pentax >>>> Takumars that I had available. For pure OOF areas, I suspect that the >>>> Taks >>>> were as nice as the Leicas. I got the Leica lenses because the in-focus >>>> performance is better than anything else that I have found. >>>> >>>> As to the different versions of the Summicron, I can't answer. IIRC, >>>> mine >>>> is a 3-cam, with a retractable shade. >>>> >>>> Takumar bokeh: >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Fuchsia_Blooms_sm.jpg.html >>>> >>>> Zuiko 14-54 bokeh: >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Garden+Spider+final.jpg.html >>>> >>>> Old Hannimex 135: >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Ruby+Throat+Female.tif.html >>>> >>>> Another with 60/2.8 Elmarit-R: >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Watchful+Hummer.jpg.html >>>> >>>> Jim Nichols >>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Laird" <digiratidoc at >>>> gmail.com> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:41 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Better bokeh? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks Jim, those are outstanding images, but I'm not really >>>>> interested in how 'sharp' the images is but rather the juxtaposition >>>>> of the somewhat sharp to the absolutely out of focus areas of the >>>>> image. That's why I'm interested in which lens offers the best >>>>> 'bokeh'. Is there any difference in bokeh between the different >>>>> versions of the 50/2.0 Summicron 1,2, and 3 cam lenses? If so, which >>>>> offers the best, smoothest out of focus image. And will the famous >>>>> Leica 'bokeh' make a significant difference over my antiquated Canon >>>>> 50/1.8? >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at >>>>> lighttube.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> James, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am using the 50/2.0 Summicron-R, and the 60/2.8 Elmarit-R Macro. The >>>>>> bokeh is fine at large apertures with both of them. The advantage of >>>>>> the >>>>>> 60 >>>>>> is that one can focus down to about 10 inches, though the DOF at that >>>>>> point >>>>>> is VERY shallow. The following images in my gallery might give you and >>>>>> idea >>>>>> of what to expect. >>>>>> >>>>>> My first post using the Elmarit: >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Rose.jpg.html >>>>>> >>>>>> A similar post with the Summicron: >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/OldNick/Yellow+Lily+2.tif.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim Nichols >>>>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Laird" >>>>>> <digiratidoc at gmail.com> >>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 7:18 PM >>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Better bokeh? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Which R lens in the 'standard' range (50-60mm) has the best bokeh? >>>>>>> I've found an interest in the macro world and shoot a lot with my old >>>>>>> trusty Canon 50 1.8 with a Kenko 12mm extension tube resulting in >>>>>>> shots like >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/digiratidoc/Bokeh/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm interested in trying out an R lens due to Leicas legendary bokeh. >>>>>>> Which one is the 'best', if there is such a thing? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >