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Subject: [Leica] Use of M8
From: simon.apekop at gmail.com (simon jessurun)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:37:50 +0100
References: <CEC89E14-8CB0-419C-A802-0EE4BAECA1B4@frozenlight.eu> <36172e5a1001162312s77e3eda8i89daa66726bfdec2@mail.gmail.com> <F0AE2087-7646-4AAF-88DB-FEB71D6B7808@frozenlight.eu> <36172e5a1001171521o4648e7aes64f0a4678284879a@mail.gmail.com> <58646C84-A63B-4B9F-B5F2-C974C9E9132E@frozenlight.eu> <E57EF98286804537B7326E879087DA0D@syneticfeba505>

Come on, of course it's nice to have.
If you want to analyse later what worked best.
Things like did high ISO  higherr shutter speed produce a nicer result then
low iso with a little motion blur.Well maybe it only is nice for amateurs
like me who do not have the zillion possible variables intheir heads.
0.02 best simon

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:34 AM, <tedgrant op shaw.ca> wrote:

> Nathan Wajsman said:
> Subject: [Leica] Use of M8
>
>> I did notice one very peculiar thing when looking at M8 pictures last
>>>> night. At first, I was annoyed that Leica had reset the numbering. But 
>>>> OK, I
>>>> figured that was an inevitable by-product of the repair.  But then I 
>>>> noticed
>>>> that the exif data includes aperture information, even for uncoded 
>>>> lenses!
>>>> And I am not talking about the maximum aperture; with both coded and 
>>>> uncoded
>>>> lenses, the M8 now tries to estimate the actual aperture used. It is not
>>>> always correct (some shots I took at f1.2 are variously identified as 
>>>> having
>>>> been taken at f1.4, f1.7 and even f2) but it is mostly in the correct
>>>>  ballpark.<<<<<<<,,
>>>>
>>>
> But Nathan you are a photographer first! Don't sweat the numbers crap as it
> doesn't mean anything "AFTER THE PICTURE IS TAKEN!"
>
> I imagine  techie people want to know this stuff, but does it really mean
> anything after the picture is recorded as a brilliant photograph or a happy
> snap of nothing?
>
> One of the troubles with digital is the techie designers have built in all
> this extra stuff we in the real world of the film times never knew, nor did
> anyone ever concern what the hell an exif was! It didn't exist, so why
> bother with it today.
>
> That is unless someone can point out to me that knowing and using it? It
> will truly improve my photographs.
> cheers,
> ted
>
>
>
>
>  Hi Geoff,
>>
>> Yes, the Passport is nice. It and the weak pound were the main reason I
>> bought the M8 in the UK.
>>
>> As for future use--I bought the M8 to take pictures, not to baby, so I
>> will not be doing anything different, except that I will continue to use 
>> the
>> little Panasonic LX3 as the cycling camera.
>>
>>
>> The version of the firmware is the same as before, so it must be some
>> special Solms black magic :-)
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>
>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>
>>  An excellent outcome for you Nathan! Congratulations. I guess that you
>>> are
>>> very pleased to have bought your M8 from the UK with that generous
>>> Passport
>>> coverage. The US folks and we Aussies don't have such a scheme.  The
>>> firmer
>>> shutter mode selection has been a much requested change in some quarters
>>> too
>>> (to reduce the likelyhood of inadvertant self timer selection). Will you
>>> be
>>> doing something differently regarding transporting/using your camera
>>> there
>>> now ?
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/1/17 Nathan Wajsman <photo op frozenlight.eu>
>>>
>>>  Hi Geoff,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the administrative details were handled between Leica Solms and
>>>> Leica
>>>> UK, and the other day my M8 arrived back in Alicante. The main switch is
>>>> now
>>>> firm and clicks into place as it should--in fact, it is a bit too firm
>>>> for
>>>> my taste but I am not going to complain about that. In other respects,
>>>> the
>>>> camera is fine, as it was before.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Nathan
>>>>
>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>
>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Jan 17, 2010, at 8:12 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  This sounds like good news for you, Nathan. So the corrosion damge was
>>>>> repaired at no cost under the UK Passport guarantee for you? Are you
>>>>>
>>>> happy
>>>>
>>>>> with the condition and performance of your M8 on its return?
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/1/17 Nathan Wajsman <photo op frozenlight.eu>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Now that I have my M8 back, it will be a while before I use film
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>
>>>>> But
>>>>
>>>>> in the meantime, I finished scanning and editing another 4 rolls this
>>>>>>
>>>>> past
>>>>
>>>>> week, and have put 28 new images in my film gallery on Smugmug. This
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> the next 27:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Sometimes-I-use-film/7590141_XFqsu#766329409_wWLQU-O-LB
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> All made with Ilford FP4 Plus and developed by Copia Lab in Barcelona.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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