Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/08/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]There was one listed, new in box, on Craig's List for $2125. I e-mailed the guy and got this response: Hello, First let me apologize for delay reply.The camera is brand new in original box with warranty and all standard accessories included. The camera will be shipped from Tennessee but so i can enlarge my perspectives, i listed it on numerous states Because of my work i`m not able for a face to face transaction ( i must travel the most of my time trough all USA ) I hope you are still interested and we can make the deal happen right away. Obviously we need a safe way to complete this deal that will allow us to make sure we receive what we are after. Since my time is limited my suggestion is to end this deal trough eBay Buyer Protection ( http://pages.ebay.com/coverage/index.html ) With this procedure you will be able to check the item before I receive the payment, eBay will manage the transaction for me. The only thing that i request from you is to send the payment to eBay but no money will reach my account until the camera is inspected by you ( No offense, but I need to be sure the person who receives the camera is verified by a legitimate party). You will have 5 ( five ) days as inspection period. If by any reason the item is not as described, or if you find any problems with it I will pay for the returning fees. I'm sure it won't be the case because it's a brand new item in box . I apologize if it seems like I'm pushing on this deal but I really want to be sure everything is clarified before any further steps. So if you are still interested please reply and i will e-mail you more details. Thank you It sounds very suspicious to me so I didn't follow up. If anybody wants to, let me know the outcome!! Tina On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 5:12 AM, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> wrote: > I have 2 months :-)! > > Yes, idle chitchat of no significance :-) Shooting is more important :-) > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:59 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Richard, I've not followed any used sales. But USD6700 is only, what 4% > > discount on the Popflash price new (if they had any)? (disregarding > > whatever > > tax effects there are on those figures). Personally I would never > purchase > > a > > used item over a new one for that sort of discount. Now a used M8 can > > certainly be a (relative) bargain. Actually I sold mine through my dealer > > for a very good price (for the buyer). It turned up interstate a couple > of > > weeks later and re-sold with another 25% on my dealers selling price. > > That's > > local market variations for you. > > > > For sure M9 used prices will decline at some point. I don't think that > you > > have proved your prediction though. Not to worry. Enjoy. > > > > Cheers > > Geoff > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > NO ARCHIVE > > > > > > On 22 August 2010 18:35, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> wrote: > > > > > I think generally the used prices for mint M9s have settled to ~$6700 > > > level. > > > Anyway, my point is really simply that for the M9, there will be > buyer's > > > remorse, due to its cost. > > > > > > The situation is a bit different from d3X and the IDsMkXXX, I think, > > > because > > > most of the buyers for those cameras are working pro. OTOH, most > > purchasers > > > of the M9 are enthusiastic amateurs, and the M9 is attracting a lot of > > > attention from non-RF users. Some of those will bolt - there is a > reason > > > why > > > SLR dethroned the RF back many years ago! > > > > > > Of course you know that I am a M9 lover, but I am just saying general > > > market > > > wise, the M9 will saturate its own market. If not this year, then may > be > > in > > > 2-3 years. When Leica releases the M10, then there will be another > round > > of > > > the upgrade cycle... > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at > > > gmail.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Richard, Not sure what you are trying to say here? > > > > I don't think that one listing establishes much of a trend ;-). I had > a > > > > read > > > > in any case and the seller is the second owner, whatever claims may > be > > > made > > > > regarding warranty, it is a used camera with no receipts and is a > > private > > > > sale with unknown buyer protection and not from a dealer. > > > > > > > > Some customers for new stock at least are still waiting in various > > places > > > > and for varying times. They may disagree with you that supply has > > caught > > > up > > > > with demand! > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Geoff > > > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > > > > > NO ARCHIVE > > > > > > > > > > > > On 22 August 2010 17:35, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Earlier this year I said by Oct, there will be used M9 selling for > > > ~$6000 > > > > > and people were skeptical. > > > > > > > > > > Well, this is August and this LNIB M9 is $6400: > > > > > http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18756 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I said before, the M9 is a great camera, but with the price, > there > > > > will > > > > > be buyer's remorse, and people will sell them at a discount, now > that > > > the > > > > > supply has finally caught up with demand. > > > > > > > > > > If I am a working pro, I will snap this up in a hurry.... > > > > > -- > > > > > // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> > > > > > // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> > > > > > // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> > > > > > [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all > > > > previous > > > > > replies in your msgs. ] > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Leica Users Group. > > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Leica Users Group. > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> > > > // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> > > > // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> > > > [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all > > previous > > > replies in your msgs. ] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > -- > // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> > // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.wordpress.com> > // photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> > [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous > replies in your msgs. ] > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -- Tina Manley, ASMP www.tinamanley.com