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Subject: [Leica] The perfect Photographer
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:23:33 +0000
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I suppose we all see something different.
I saw a relatively unattractive rear view of a chubby woman on a ladder 
taking pictures in the street. I mainly looked for what she was taking 
pictures of.
Frank

On 17 Dec, 2010, at 04:38, <tedgrant at shaw.ca> <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:

> Sonny Carter offered:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The perfect Photographer
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Jeff Moore <jbm at jbm.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> 2010-12-16-17:38:53 tedgrant at shaw.ca:
>>> > Jeff,
>>> >
>>> > This is a damn fine photograph depicting a photographer on a ladder
>>> > at work! That's all it is, as simple as that. Like where is your
>>> > mind?
>>>> mmmm.  I think my mind is with Jeff on this one Ted.  As Bill points 
>>>> out, no
>> camera.<,,,
> 
> OK guys and ladies, I suppose I over reacted a tad.
> 
> However in my defense:  I suppose not many of you have worked along side 
> Brit media photographers during a royal tour or similar situation, where 
> darn near all of them carry a set of steps as we see in this photo.
> 
> In any event I had absolutely no re-action to not seeing a camera, as I 
> knew exactly what it was! A photographer taking a picture!   Simply 
> because I've seen the butt ends of lots of photographers in a mass shoot 
> out during a Royal tour with these type of steps are quite a normal thing 
> in Europe!
> 
> My reaction? I saw nothing more than a photographer on steps shooting into 
> a crowd. Sure the butt end was the point of the photograph and I wouldn't 
> have hesitated for the blink of an eye in shooting exactly the same scene! 
> It's called "Life on the streets of the world!" Not like it was a scene in 
> a church or other religious situation. Damn now that ought to start a 
> whole new series! :-(
> 
> The butt end wasn't really any thing at all, as I suppose I've seen lots 
> butt ends of fellow photographers in exactly this position. Quite frankly 
> they're really a pain in the, if you'll pardon my expression... "A big 
> pain in the ass!" Because when you have 15 - 20 or more photogs forming a 
> kind of wall up on steps, you really do see nothing but a bunch of asses! 
> All clothed mind you! ;-)
> 
> I have absolutely no feeling towards any kind of embarrassment what so 
> ever, nor that the photo is embarrassing in any fashion. I suppose it's 
> "Too each his own."
> 
> My re-action such as it is........... It's just a shot of a butt that if I 
> were shooting street stuff my re-action at the moment would have been 
> exactly as Lluis,  "CLICK!" Kind of smiled and moved on looking for next 
> bit of street life.
> 
> And please do not bring up any kind of twisted angles that I'm 
> disrespectful of a woman or women! Simply because I was brought up by firm 
> parents about respect of ladies in holding doors, ladies before men, give 
> your seat on the bus or street car to any lady! And the list goes on! So 
> don't bring that in. And I can offer being respectful of the woman 
> birthing in the OR on how you act as not to cause her any embarrassment.
> 
> So ladies and gentlemen, and Jeff;  an apology for the blast off in the 
> first post. But I will not apologize in saying I would have shot exactly 
> the same scene if I were there! Or anywhere in the world when this type of 
> day to day life moment occurs!  Keep it simple.... It's just using the 
> "Art of Observation!" CLICK!
> 
> Thank you.
> Good night.
> cheers,
> ted.
> 
> 
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