Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/12/27

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Subject: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 16:25:49 -0500
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Ted -

There is something you can try.  Open Lightroom and click on File > Import
Photos.  The Import screen will open.  The left-hand side of the screen
shows where the photos are being imported from (usually my memory card).
 The right hand side show where they are being imported to.  Check and see
what destination is set for the photos.  It should be on the very top,
right-hand side. On mine, I have it set for my Drobo and a copy to another
hard-drive.  If you can figure out where LR imported your photos to, maybe
you can find the photos.

Hope this helps!

Tina

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:

> Dr. Ted:
>
> What happened to you on a large scale is what just happened to me for
> three images. It is an indication that the user interface of Adobe products
> sucks and that goes for Photoshop too.
>
> When you import the RAW files into LR, there is a spot on the window where
> you tell it where the hell to put the DNG (RAW) files. That info is
> supposed to stay put unless deliberately changed. My DNGs go to a terabyte
> disk that is always connected to my computer and is a different disk from
> my ordinary backup.
>
> Well, three pictures vanished, and I finally found them in a folder on my
> internal disk, a folder that I use for .jpg files that are probably
> destined for the LUG gallery. No idea how that happened.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Herb
>
>
>  Adam Bridge OFFERED:
>>
>>> This is seriously neat and means that your original file is ALWAYS
>>>>>
>>>> there to be edited in its original state.<<<<<<
>>
>> Hi Adam,
>> That being the case how is it when I was shooting RAW and
>> downloading into Lightroom. All had been going fine and I'd do the
>> same routine everytime. WHEN ONE DAY????????
>>
>> All I had on screen was about 2000 or more nice looking grey
>> coloured 35mm looking frames in the Lightroom folders / files?
>> Pictures? Images? Frames? NADA !!! Not one but blank grey 35mm
>> frames.... Unfortunately lost some important stuff. :-(
>>
>> My immediate response??? Screw this LR stuff.... went back to
>> shooting JPEG and using Photoshop and all has been perfect ever
>> since.
>>
>> I keep hearing LIGHTROOM folks say.... "The images are in there you
>> just have to find them!" Well OK I have looked in every conceivable
>> click on spot..... same thing, " beautiful grey coloured 35mm blank
>> frames!" Another? "OFFLINE OR MISSING!" Yeah right, they sure as
>> hell are missing!
>>
>>  This is seriously neat and means that your original file is
>>>>> ALWAYS there to be edited in its original state.<<<<
>>>>>
>>>>
>> I can only offer...... "REALLY?" And where might I find them? I have
>> found some in folders through the Photoshop system.. But hundreds of
>> others??????????????? no where in site. If they were giving away the
>> very best LR system for free I'd have doubts about taking it.
>> Unfortunately when I read all the good & great stuff you fok are
>> sayng about Light Room.
>>
>> cheers,
>> ted
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
>>
>>
>>  I'm not so sure I understand this non-destructive business. It is
>>> supposed to be the end-all answer to our problems, and answer to a
>>> question that seemed without an answer, and yet I've been doing the
>>> same thing for years. Simple, really, before photoshopping a file,
>>> save it with a different name, and do all you want to it, the
>>> original remains untouched.
>>>
>>> Oh well, I never said I was smart.
>>>
>>> Bill Pearce
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Adam Bridge
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 11:01 AM
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
>>>
>>> On thing not mentioned: Lightroom is entirely non-destructive to
>>> your images. Everything it does is parametric - that is the changes
>>> are done on the fly. This is seriously neat and means that your
>>> original file is ALWAYS there to be edited in its original state.
>>>
>>> Photoshop doesn't do that unless you convert to smart filters.
>>>
>>> It's the creation of masks on the fly that is amazing inside
>>> Lightroom. I have a bit of an inkling on how it does it, but I sure
>>> admire the engineers who implemented those features.
>>>
>>> There are tasks that only Photoshop can do. If you need layers and
>>> compositing then Lightroom isn't it - although you can do much
>>> before you get to the point where you need those.
>>>
>>> I'm making these points, not to convince Mark that he's wrong, but
>>> simply to bring out a fundamental and profound difference between
>>> the two software environments.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:24 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>> http://mansurovs.com/**photoshop-vs-lightroom<http://mansurovs.com/photoshop-vs-lightroom>
>>>> Here is a comparison.
>>>> There are hundreds of others you could find in a minute.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>
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> Herbert Kanner
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> 650-326-8204
>
> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
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Tina Manley, ASMP
www.tinamanley.com


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