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Subject: [Leica] OT (very) The Great Prostate Debate: Does ScreeningSave Lives?: Scientific American
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:22:15 -0800
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On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Sonny Carter wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
> gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> 
>> well put Sonny and so true.... especially where the disease is found in 
>> 40% of men, but kills maybe 1 %.
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> 
>> This is precisely the dilemma,
>> 
>> Steve
> 
> 
> Centers for Disease Control has the figures for people who died.  Hard
> to correlate those who were treated and did not die because they were.
>   They don't give figures for people who were successfully treated
> with chemo/hormone and radiation therapy.  I guess they are available,
> but it is getting late in Louisiana.
> 
> When I die, causes will pretty sure not be prostate cancer, because,
> for all practical purposes I don't have one anymore.
> 
> That sure skews your 1% figure.   If conservatively, 200,000 men had
> successful treatment in some form, and I'll bet the figure is higher,
> the question certainly changes.
> 
> Another issue, of course, is how many men started with relatively
> benign prostate cancer, and had it spread beyond?
> 
> Aggressive cancer can move pretty rapidly to lymph glands and onward
> to bones, and, there you go.
> 
> 
> Overheard in autopsy:
> "He died of  a heart attack while being treated for multiple myeloma;
> oh, look! he seemed to also have prostate cancer."
> 
> 
> Mortality
> 
>    Number of deaths from prostate cancer: 28,088
>    Deaths per 100,000 males from prostate cancer: 18.5
> 
> Hospital inpatient care
> 
>    Number of prostatectomy procedures: 158,000


additional answers to questions here....

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=prostate-cancer-screening-and-treatments



Steve


> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sonny
> http://sonc.com/look/
> Natchitoches, Louisiana
> 
> USA
> 
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