Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/04/25

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Subject: [Leica] Benro Copyright...
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:35:54 -0700
References: <CAF8hL-H8zJvv6SbWjiXedE2rr2zbtXUZnL5iMfeMTwfLuqqqhA@mail.gmail.com> <A6F99D54-5539-4723-ABF7-547BBA5DEA21@frozenlight.eu>

Yes, I'd agree with you.

I don't know when that happened, but nowadays companies would have a more
ironclad agreement in place before any IP is passed on.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
frozenlight.eu>wrote:

> The case described by Peter is different from the garden-variety copying
> of features you describe. According to Peter, Benro had an agreement for
> some kind of joint venture with Gitzo. So Gitzo gave them the design,
> following which Benro broke off the agreement and just copied the design.
> That is theft, pure and simple (nothing to do with copyright, BTW, the IP
> right here is design). I assume Gitzo was unable to pursue it in Chinese
> courts, given the nature of that country's legal system.
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
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>
>
> YNWA
>
>
>
> On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>
> > I scrolled past the message where Nathan said something like Benro copies
> > the plans for the Gitzo. I wasn't aware of that but not surprised.
> Similar
> > things happen with electronic boards and appliances etc. Ethically, it's
> > something that I cannot condone. OTOH, the question to ask is why are
> Gitzo
> > and Manfrotto so expensive in the first place? I guess the proof in the
> > pudding is in whether Benro will start to innovate and come out with
> their
> > own design. As small as our market is in my dayjob business, it seems
> that
> > whenever we come out with a new feature, one of our competitor would come
> > out with a similar feature in a few months later. C'est la vie.
> >
> > I own a small Benro and a large one (any larger would be too tall for me
> to
> > use). The large one I bought to use with the heaver cameras but I found
> > that most of the time when hiking, it's just as easy to carry it than
> with
> > the smaller one, unless I am doing a really strenous hike like up to Half
> > Dome.
> >
> > Carbon Fiber is definitely the way to go though, if weight is a
> > consideration.
> >
> > --
> > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> >
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