Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/05/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Most countries don't want Americans who are not wealthy immigrating to their countries. I looked into Canada several years ago, and they won't accept an American immigrant who hasn't got a job already lined up that pays a certain salary, and then only if no Canadian can do the job. Asians and Latinos were and still are welcomed here, as are Indians. Americans are not very welcome in other countries. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-437-8990 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 Become a fan on Facebook On 5/11/12 10:55 PM, "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote: >US graduates should emigrate to where the jobs are, as generations of >Asians and Latinos did before them! It will also kill the immigration >debate in the USA, and transfer it to the Asian countries. As an example, >there is a fair shortage of qualified engineers here in India, at salaries >that will give you a top 3% lifestyle at Indian costs of living (which is >much better than what you can expect in the USA overall), and without the >baggage of knowing a foreign language, as English would do. I think North >Americans are far too insular... >Cheers >Jayanand > >On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com> wrote: > >> The availability of jobs rise and wane due to many circumstances such as >> the one listed below. However, I think there had been a expectation >>that a >> college degree guarantees a good job, which has never been the case. The >> demands from jobs is higher, and more specialized. A general arts degree >> will essentially guarantee that you will require more specialized >>education >> to enter a more lucrative job market. >> >> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Henning Wulff <henningw at >> archiphoto.com >> >wrote: >> >> > Here in Canada the job market is fragmented. While quite a few people, >> > including university grads can't get decent paying jobs there are a >>lot >> of >> > well paying jobs that go unfilled. I believe the same is true in many >> > developed countries, and especially the US. >> > >> > As an architect I regularly see trades that can't find skilled >>workers. >> > The brick and tile layers that are really good are retiring, as most >>came >> > from Europe in the 50's and 60's. Here there was never a decent system >> for >> > training them, and the jobs were considered 'beneath' people who >>could go >> > to college. That kind of stigma and lack of training is coming back to >> bite >> > us. Lots of other trades are the same. >> > >> > If you do go to college, consider various engineering jobs. Many are >> > desperately lacking in personnel. Many people are still going to >> University >> > in an undefined Arts program, and racking up tuition debts. Good luck! >> It's >> > not the fault only of the kids of course; it's mostly the fault of >> general >> > society. When you're 20, it's better to be seen as being enrolled in a >> > literature program at a good college or university than being in a >>good >> > training program as an elevator installer. But take a look at them 10 >> years >> > down the road, in our present economic trend. >> > >> > Henning >> > >> > >> > On 2012-05-11, at 9:55 AM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote: >> > >> > > Engineering, computer science, and science graduates are highly >>sought >> > after here in the US. And just about anywhere in the world. As for >> > Journalism, I know a young lady getting her degree in England/Germany >>who >> > has several solid job offers waiting for her. >> > > >> > > Gene >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Phil Forrest" <photo.forrest at earthlink.net> >> > > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >> > > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:05:16 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central >> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Monochrome >> > > >> > > I wish him the best of luck. >> > > MS in Aerospace Eng is certainly a specialized field and probably >>has a >> > > decent amount of opportunity after graduation. >> > > >> > > There are exceptions everywhere. Here in the US the job market >>isn't as >> > > rosy and the educated are increasingly being forced to work at very >>low >> > > wages. >> > > >> > > Phil Forrest >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, 11 May 2012 06:56:08 +0200 >> > > Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote: >> > > >> > >> I do not wish to sound smug or uncaring, but I just cannot share >>your >> > >> wholesale pessimism. I know that you have difficult circumstances >>and >> > >> for a variety of reasons that have little to do with the economy >>are >> > >> stuck in a depressed city. But I also know that my almost-23 year >>old >> > >> son will graduate with a Masters in aerospace engineering next year >> > >> (2013) and I know that thanks to his hard work at university, he >>will >> > >> have good grades and will very likely find a well-paying after >> > >> graduating. The only thing I do not know is exactly where that job >> > >> will be--given his specialty, it could be on either side of the >> > >> Atlantic. But it will certainly not be $7 an hour. >> > >> >> > >> And we are no 1-percenters. He attends a public university in >>England >> > >> and will graduate with a (modest) tuition debt. >> > >> >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> Nathan >> > >> >> > >> Nathan Wajsman >> > >> Alicante, Spain >> > >> http://www.frozenlight.eu >> > >> http://www.greatpix.eu >> > >> http://www.nathanfoto.com >> > >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >> > >> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> YNWA >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On May 11, 2012, at 4:01 AM, Chris Crawford wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> You have your head in the sand if you think that, Doug. The world >> > >>> has changed, and my generation will never be permitted the decent >> > >>> lives our parents had, no matter how hard we work. >> > >>> >> > >>> -- >> > >>> Chris Crawford >> > >>> Fine Art Photography >> > >>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> > >>> 260-437-8990 >> > >>> >> > >>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> > >>> >> > >>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! >> > >>> >> > >>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >> > >>> Become a fan on Facebook >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On 5/10/12 9:11 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>>> Phil Forrest wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> On Thu, 10 May 2012 15:28:26 -0400 >> > >>>>> Chris Crawford <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>>> This thing is so far outside the realm of even remote >> > >>>>>> possibility for me that I frankly don't give a damn. What is >> > >>>>>> Leica going to do when all the old people who have money >>because >> > >>>>>> they began working before the $7 an hour economy was foisted >> > >>>>>> upon their children have died, leaving the impoverished young >> > >>>>>> who simply cannot even consider such equipment, no matter how >> > >>>>>> good it is. >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> I've been asking this question for years and no one will give me >> > >>>>> an answer that works, instead insisting that Leica will continue >> > >>>>> to exist. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> The people who were asking this question forty years ago (I was >> > >>>> there) now have the means to consider a Leica system. And it may >> > >>>> very well be less than forty years but some day in the future >>many >> > >>>> of today's younger adults will also be able to realistically buy >> > >>>> into a Leica camera system. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Doug Herr >> > >>>> Birdman of Sacramento >> > >>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>> Leica Users Group. >> > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> > >>>> information >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> Leica Users Group. >> > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>information >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> Leica Users Group. >> > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>information >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > http://philipforrestphoto.wordpress.com/ >> > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Leica Users Group. >> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Leica Users Group. >> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > >> > >> > >> > Henning Wulff >> > henningw at archiphoto.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Ken Iisaka >> first name at last name dot org or com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information