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Subject: [Leica] Was Leica Monochrome - now jobs abroad
From: douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp)
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 15:11:05 +0200
References: <1134637030.5746561336755357174.JavaMail.root@dsmdc-mail-mbs12> <BA2584F2-C46F-4652-84BA-3F88C5F4573A@archiphoto.com> <CABXy4065PX+qwDPChU8vCCqSvAeJno3UW6Gm_7X7kdyq4gqbKg@mail.gmail.com> <CAH1UNJ14fA6CkahBRYP0Q+ae3b286R91Vi4Bfy-BQD_Xt5yLyg@mail.gmail.com> <20120512013411.674d9067@linux-pfy5.site>

Germany is just crying out for engineers and 
specialists of all kinds.

As they didn't have much success in the EU, they are 
now working on a "Blue Card" for job seekers from other 
countries.

The most important points are:

/Applicants should provide a degree from an accredited 
University or at least 5 years experience in a related 
profession and an employment contract from a German 
company with a salary of 44.000,- ? which is reduced to 
33.000,- ? for scientists, IT-Experts, Engineers and 
medical Doctors.
/
Great place to live, I moved here from the UK in 1974, 
and still love it.

I arrived at Hannover Airport with a job, a small 
suitcase, and hardly a word of German at the age of 22, 
spent 30 years in geophysical exploration and then 
founded my own (successful beyond my wildest dreams!!) 
German to English translation business for the 
advertising and marketing segment.:-)

Cheers
Douglas




On 12.05.2012 07:34, Phil Forrest wrote:
> Just picking up and moving is that easy, huh? Not really. Not from this
> point of view.
>
> Phil Forrest
>
>
> On Sat, 12 May 2012 08:25:27 +0530
> Jayanand Govindaraj<jayanand at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> US graduates should emigrate to where the jobs are, as generations of
>> Asians and Latinos did before them! It will also kill the immigration
>> debate in the USA, and transfer it to the Asian countries. As an
>> example, there is a fair shortage of qualified engineers here in
>> India, at salaries that will give you a top 3% lifestyle at Indian
>> costs of living (which is much better than what you can expect in the
>> USA overall), and without the baggage of knowing a foreign language,
>> as English would do. I think North Americans are far too insular...
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>>
>> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Ken Iisaka<ken at iisaka.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> The availability of jobs rise and wane due to many circumstances
>>> such as the one listed below. However, I think there had been a
>>> expectation that a college degree guarantees a good job, which has
>>> never been the case. The demands from jobs is higher, and more
>>> specialized. A general arts degree will essentially guarantee that
>>> you will require more specialized education to enter a more
>>> lucrative job market.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Henning Wulff
>>> <henningw at archiphoto.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Here in Canada the job market is fragmented. While quite a few
>>>> people, including university grads can't get decent paying jobs
>>>> there are a lot
>>> of
>>>> well paying jobs that go unfilled. I believe the same is true in
>>>> many developed countries, and especially the US.
>>>>
>>>> As an architect I regularly see trades that can't find skilled
>>>> workers. The brick and tile layers that are really good are
>>>> retiring, as most came from Europe in the 50's and 60's. Here
>>>> there was never a decent system
>>> for
>>>> training them, and the jobs were considered 'beneath' people who
>>>> could go to college. That kind of stigma and lack of training is
>>>> coming back to
>>> bite
>>>> us. Lots of other trades are the same.
>>>>
>>>> If you do go to college, consider various engineering jobs. Many
>>>> are desperately lacking in personnel. Many people are still going
>>>> to
>>> University
>>>> in an undefined Arts program, and racking up tuition debts. Good
>>>> luck!
>>> It's
>>>> not the fault only of the kids of course; it's mostly the fault of
>>> general
>>>> society. When you're 20, it's better to be seen as being enrolled
>>>> in a literature program at a good college or university than
>>>> being in a good training program as an elevator installer. But
>>>> take a look at them 10
>>> years
>>>> down the road, in our present economic trend.
>>>>
>>>> Henning
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2012-05-11, at 9:55 AM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Engineering, computer science, and science graduates are highly
>>>>> sought
>>>> after here in the US.  And just about anywhere in the world.  As
>>>> for Journalism, I know a young lady getting her degree in
>>>> England/Germany who has several solid job offers waiting for her.
>>>>> Gene
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Phil Forrest"<photo.forrest at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group"<lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:05:16 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
>>>>> Central Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Monochrome
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish him the best of luck.
>>>>> MS in Aerospace Eng is certainly a specialized field and
>>>>> probably has a decent amount of opportunity after graduation.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are exceptions everywhere. Here in the US the job market
>>>>> isn't as rosy and the educated are increasingly being forced to
>>>>> work at very low wages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil Forrest
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 11 May 2012 06:56:08 +0200
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman<photo at frozenlight.eu>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not wish to sound smug or uncaring, but I just cannot
>>>>>> share your wholesale pessimism. I know that you have difficult
>>>>>> circumstances and for a variety of reasons that have little to
>>>>>> do with the economy are stuck in a depressed city. But I also
>>>>>> know that my almost-23 year old son will graduate with a
>>>>>> Masters in aerospace engineering next year (2013) and I know
>>>>>> that thanks to his hard work at university, he will have good
>>>>>> grades and will very likely find a well-paying after
>>>>>> graduating. The only thing I do not know is exactly where that
>>>>>> job will be--given his specialty, it could be on either side
>>>>>> of the Atlantic. But it will certainly not be $7 an hour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And we are no 1-percenters. He attends a public university in
>>>>>> England and will graduate with a (modest) tuition debt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 11, 2012, at 4:01 AM, Chris Crawford wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have your head in the sand if you think that, Doug. The
>>>>>>> world has changed, and my generation will never be permitted
>>>>>>> the decent lives our parents had, no matter how hard we work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/10/12 9:11 PM, "Doug Herr"<wildlightphoto at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Phil Forrest wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 May 2012 15:28:26 -0400
>>>>>>>>> Chris Crawford<chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This thing is so far outside the realm of even remote
>>>>>>>>>> possibility for me that I frankly don't give a damn. What
>>>>>>>>>> is Leica going to do when all the old people who have
>>>>>>>>>> money because they began working before the $7 an hour
>>>>>>>>>> economy was foisted upon their children have died, leaving
>>>>>>>>>> the impoverished young who simply cannot even consider
>>>>>>>>>> such equipment, no matter how good it is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been asking this question for years and no one will
>>>>>>>>> give me an answer that works, instead insisting that Leica
>>>>>>>>> will continue to exist.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The people who were asking this question forty years ago (I
>>>>>>>> was there) now have the means to consider a Leica system.
>>>>>>>> And it may very well be less than forty years but some day
>>>>>>>> in the future many of today's younger adults will also be
>>>>>>>> able to realistically buy into a Leica camera system.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doug Herr
>>>>>>>> Birdman of Sacramento
>>>>>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Henning Wulff
>>>> henningw at archiphoto.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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In reply to: Message from grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com) ([Leica] Leica Monochrome)
Message from henningw at archiphoto.com (Henning Wulff) ([Leica] Leica Monochrome)
Message from ken at iisaka.com (Ken Iisaka) ([Leica] Leica Monochrome)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Leica Monochrome)
Message from photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Phil Forrest) ([Leica] Leica Monochrome)