Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/05/27

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Subject: [Leica] Another MM write-up
From: john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 23:43:16 +0000
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I had been about to write and correct that ;-)

Many reviewers have pointed out that both MM firmware (rather than camera) 
and the 50AA are liable to change before production release.

I did not expect the MM to be a large run, where did you hear of the 1000 
units Geoff?  

john
________________________________________


b) I meant LOSSY compression of course

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Richard Man <richard at 
richardmanphoto.com>wrote:

> Or that
> a) it's a pre-production firmware
> b) the lossless DNG compression on the M9 depends on certain voodoo magic
> about the image file characteristic (because in the end, it's compressing
> 12 bit data down to 8), and such voodoo does not work on the monochrom data
> as you will be throwing away dynamic range data, which is the raison d'?tre
> ** <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raison_d%27%C3%AAtre> of the MM.
>
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Dante Stella <dstella1 at 
> ameritech.net>wrote:
>
>> The cynical answer is that removing the compression option saved a couple
>> hundred K of firmware size, allowing the company to downgrade the flash 
>> ram
>> from 1gb to 512mb, thereby saving two dollars per camera and guaranteeing
>> no major firmware improvements ever.
>>
>> The truth is probably that the low cost of SD memory eliminates one
>> reason to compress.
>>
>> I'm just kidding about manufacturing cost savings.
>>
>> Dante
>>
>> On May 27, 2012, at 6:53 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> > One interesting bit (I thought) was that DNG compression is not
>> available on the MM. If a full colour M9(P) can have it and it is regarded
>> as lossless (although not called such) why not put it on a greyscale
>> camera....
>> >
>> > john
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: John McMaster
>> > Sent: Sunday, 27 May 2012 9:41 p.m.
>> > To: Leica Users Group
>> > Subject: Another MM write-up
>> >
>> > http://www.reddotforum.com/content.php/226-Leica-M-Monochrom-Review
>> >
>> > john
>> >


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