Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/05/27

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Subject: [Leica] Another MM write-up
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 16:47:55 -0700
References: <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E971F2AB2E@WhizzMAIL01.whizz.org> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E971F37867@WHIZZMAIL02.whizz.org> <610BB8F2-6FE2-4202-9C0A-9A249434D6A9@ameritech.net> <CAF8hL-H4bqbe-oDdPZBmXqLTnJw2fvxM+cgzWxx6P24x=U4xFA@mail.gmail.com> <CAF8hL-E3JN-103gKeqO9YDNgV3DbQ__n+xuKhAcNWtqTZmY0uw@mail.gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E97222B9E2@WHIZZMAIL02.whizz.org>

Ha, stupid gmail copy and paste. I try to get the glyph of raison d'?tre
and it kept the reference link to the wiki article.

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:43 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> 
wrote:

> I had been about to write and correct that ;-)
>
> Many reviewers have pointed out that both MM firmware (rather than camera)
> and the 50AA are liable to change before production release.
>
> I did not expect the MM to be a large run, where did you hear of the 1000
> units Geoff?
>
> john
> ________________________________________
>
>
> b) I meant LOSSY compression of course
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Richard Man <richard at 
> richardmanphoto.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Or that
> > a) it's a pre-production firmware
> > b) the lossless DNG compression on the M9 depends on certain voodoo magic
> > about the image file characteristic (because in the end, it's compressing
> > 12 bit data down to 8), and such voodoo does not work on the monochrom
> data
> > as you will be throwing away dynamic range data, which is the raison
> d'?tre
> > ** <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raison_d%27%C3%AAtre> of the MM.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Dante Stella <dstella1 at ameritech.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> The cynical answer is that removing the compression option saved a
> couple
> >> hundred K of firmware size, allowing the company to downgrade the flash
> ram
> >> from 1gb to 512mb, thereby saving two dollars per camera and
> guaranteeing
> >> no major firmware improvements ever.
> >>
> >> The truth is probably that the low cost of SD memory eliminates one
> >> reason to compress.
> >>
> >> I'm just kidding about manufacturing cost savings.
> >>
> >> Dante
> >>
> >> On May 27, 2012, at 6:53 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > One interesting bit (I thought) was that DNG compression is not
> >> available on the MM. If a full colour M9(P) can have it and it is
> regarded
> >> as lossless (although not called such) why not put it on a greyscale
> >> camera....
> >> >
> >> > john
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: John McMaster
> >> > Sent: Sunday, 27 May 2012 9:41 p.m.
> >> > To: Leica Users Group
> >> > Subject: Another MM write-up
> >> >
> >> > http://www.reddotforum.com/content.php/226-Leica-M-Monochrom-Review
> >> >
> >> > john
> >> >
>
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-- 
// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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