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Subject: [Leica] marriage
From: charcot at comcast.net (Charcot)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 19:42:56 -0600
References: <CBEC4227.158B7%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com>

Right after my divorce started a wise old cardiologist came up to me and 
asked

Ernie , do you know why divorces are so expensive?

No.

cuz they're there worth it!


- ernie
On May 30, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Chris Crawford wrote:

> Luis, that reminds me of something one of my divorced friends always tells
> people: "I don't see what's so bad about 50% of marriages ending in
> divorce. The other 50% end up MUCH worse. They end in DEATH!"
> 
> -- 
> Chris Crawford
> Fine Art Photography
> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> 260-437-8990
> 
> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> On 5/30/12 7:11 PM, "Lluis Ripoll" <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Tina,
>> 
>> Do you know the Groucho Marx quote "Marriage is the leading cause of
>> divorces"
>> 
>> Just a joke... but here too, is the same, many young marrieds are
>> divorced a few years after. I don't know if this a consequence and a
>> sign of our times, everything goes fast, everything is changing...
>> 
>> Saludos
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> El 31/05/2012, a las 1:03, Tina Manley escribi?:
>> 
>>> That's what my son is telling me.  He has been living with his
>>> girlfriend
>>> for 7 years and they have just bought a house together!  When I ask
>>> about
>>> marriage, they both say that every friend they have who has gotten
>>> married
>>> has ended up divorced within a year or two.  They are actually
>>> afraid of
>>> marriage.  What has happened?  Why is marriage a threat instead of a
>>> promise?
>>> 
>>> Maybe we should move this to the Forum.
>>> 
>>> Tina
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Chris Crawford <
>>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The fact that you're a goodhearted woman who would never do that to
>>>> your
>>>> husband doesn't change the fact that you still have a license to
>>>> steal if
>>>> you wanted to. That wasn't such a concern for your generation,
>>>> Tina. When
>>>> you got married, people respected their marriage vows, and each
>>>> other.
>>>> 
>>>> The women of my generation simply do not have that belief. They get
>>>> bored,
>>>> they go screw someone else. Then they divorce the man and take most
>>>> of
>>>> what he has. More than half of marriages in my age group  fail
>>>> within 5
>>>> years, and 85% of divorces are filed by the women, not the men.
>>>> When a
>>>> female attorney tells me that men are idiots for marrying today, I
>>>> see no
>>>> reason why she would lie.
>>>> 
>>>> Even my mother has told me that! She works with a lot of women who
>>>> are my
>>>> age and younger, and she has told me that she is absolutely
>>>> mortified by
>>>> their behaviour. She asked me recently why she keeps seeing young
>>>> women
>>>> ditching good men for worthless scum. She finally understood why so
>>>> many
>>>> decent men refuse to marry these days. Women can do what they want,
>>>> its a
>>>> free country, and I would certainly not want the government telling
>>>> people
>>>> who want to divorce that they cannot. At the same time, the laws
>>>> are very
>>>> unjust, and men have the freedom to refuse to participate. I have
>>>> met some
>>>> women who are good women, but they're all my mother's age.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>> 
>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/30/12 5:59 PM, "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Whoa!  Sorry you guys have had a bad experience with marriage but
>>>>> maybe
>>>>> you
>>>>> just picked the wrong women!  I don't think my husband would say
>>>>> that
>>>>> marriage is a license for women to steal.  We share everything.
>>>>> Marriage
>>>>> is wonderful when you choose the right partner.  We couldn't
>>>>> imagine life
>>>>> without each other.  He is my other half and my best friend.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tina
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Chris Crawford <
>>>>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You've learned an expensive lesson: Marriage is simply a license
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> women
>>>>>> to steal. I've never, thank God, been married, but I've dealt
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>> family-law system a lot over the years because I have a 15 year
>>>>>> old son.
>>>>>> My attorney, who is a young woman, told me that any man who
>>>>>> marries in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> United States is as stupid as a chicken who would support Colonel
>>>>>> Sanders.
>>>>>> I've seen several friends with wives who cheated on them
>>>>>> constantly,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> left for another man, and the courts punished the husband for his
>>>>>> wife's
>>>>>> whoring by letting the ex-wife steal everything he owned. My
>>>>>> attorney
>>>>>> told
>>>>>> me that men get zero benefit from marriage.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I got custody of my son 4 yrs ago. His mother has never and will
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> pay
>>>>>> a dime of child support. The state couldn't care less. I don't
>>>>>> care, I
>>>>>> don't need her money and am honestly happy that she leaves us
>>>>>> alone (she
>>>>>> rarely sees our son, she lost interest in him after having a new
>>>>>> baby).
>>>>>> My
>>>>>> ex got NOTHNG I owned when she decided to leave for some loser
>>>>>> 'badboy',
>>>>>> because we were not married. All she got was child support during
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> years she had custody of him.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 5/30/12 3:07 PM, "Ken Iisaka" <ken at iisaka.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Going through a very acrimonious divorce process, I just
>>>>>>> received a
>>>>>> demand
>>>>>>> letter from my ex demanding all of my photographic equipment
>>>>>>> acquired
>>>>>>> before the separation date. That includes numerous M bodies
>>>>>>> including
>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> M8, and a bunch of lenses including some spectacular lenses like
>>>>>> Noctilux
>>>>>>> and APO Summicron 90mm.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Considering that she has previously claimed highly inflated
>>>>>>> values for
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> equipment, I'm hoping that I would be able to get 50% of the value
>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>> a new set of equipment based on her valuation.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Looking at what I use the most, I think I'd be very happy with a
>>>>>>> MM,
>>>>>>> APO-Summicron 50mm for most of my work, and Olympus OM-D E-M5
>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>> few
>>>>>>> lenses for color work. In the film days, I used Leica
>>>>>>> exclusively for
>>>>>> BW,
>>>>>>> and a Nikon for color. I look forward to these simpler days.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ken Iisaka
>>>>>>> first name at last name dot org or com
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>> 
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