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Subject: [Leica] Just for the record
From: jsmith342 at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:51:56 -0500
References: <CBFAB731.16792%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com>

My grandfather lived to be 97. He was a farmer, then a carpenter. By age 60, 
his body was like a '57 Chevy with 500,000 miles on the odometer. None of us 
dared to tell him that needed to exercise more. He needed a rest. So he read 
a lot in his last years. I bought him a book on the Titanic sinking, and he 
stayed up late into the night reading it. Sure, if he exercised after age 
90, he might have hit 100. He deserved to do what he wanted to do or not do. 

Sent from my iPad

Jeffery L. Smith
New Orleans, Louisiana
USA

On Jun 10, 2012, at 20:15, Chris Crawford <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> 
wrote:

> Oh Hell. "Killing yourself" is a figure of speech, it wasn't meant to be
> literal.
> 
> My great-grandpa was in poor health and refused to eat healthy or exercise
> and still lived longer than most of you will. Some people are intelligent
> enough to see the irony in that and get a laugh from it.
> 
> My great-grandpa was a retired coal miner from eastern Kentucky. He
> 'exercised' more each day he worked than most of you do in a month at the
> gym. Back then, miners knocked coal off the walls of the mine with
> pickaxes and hammers. They had none of the machinery used today.
> 
> The kind of time-wasting exercise that most people do today wouldn't be
> necessary if people lived truly active lives. I don't watch TV. Complete
> waste of time, and bad for the intellect and the soul. The only time I sit
> down is when editing photos or working for clients, and I do not work full
> time at all, thank God. I prefer to be out photographing.
> 
> I'm still not as active as I'd like, but I am in continuous pain. The
> bones in my legs hurt constantly, all the time. Sometimes it is so bad I
> can barely walk. I have the same pains in my right arm, and most of the
> leg pain is in my right leg, not so much the left. I don't know why; I
> cannot afford medical care for it. This is the USA, where the unhealthy
> and poor are left to die. My doctor thinks it might be neurological, but I
> can't afford the tests they want to do.
> 
> On the good days, when it doesn't hurt so bad, my son and I go hiking at
> the county nature preserve. I spend a lot of time walking about with a
> camera. Many people with my health issues would sit around doing nothing,
> but I don't. You have no right to judge me. Most of you have lived lives
> of privilege that I will never know. Instead of shitting on someone less
> fortunate, why not be thankful for all you have, and please try and think
> before spouting off about something. My story about my great grandpa was
> meant to be FUNNY, though it is also true. He really did live to be 90
> despite his poor health and refusal to heed doctors' advice. I think
> that's kinda funny, and I'm glad he did live that long. Some of my
> favorite memories from childhood were from times I spent with him.
> 
> -- 
> Chris Crawford
> Fine Art Photography
> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> 260-437-8990
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> On 6/10/12 8:02 PM, "tedgrant at shaw.ca" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Richard Man OFFERED:
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Just for the record
>> 
>> 
>>> Congrats! Herb! I hope to be able to use my Leica MMMXXXII when I'm 90!
>>> 
>>> Chris, that's a myth. You don't have to kill yourself exercising or
>>> eating
>>> food you don't like. Healthy eating and living don't necessarily equate
>>> that!<<<<<
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> Chris is absolutely wrong and for a young lad I find it very sad he has
>> that 
>> attitude about killing oneself through exercise! And as far as eating
>> foods 
>> you don't like???? That thought never crossed my mind. If one is hungry
>> enough or on the brink of starvation? Chris would be amazed what a human
>> being will eat to survive. I wont go into that one!
>> 
>> Exercising and killing. Hey Chris how be you lie down on the floor and do
>> 80 
>> sit-ups and have enough left over that you could probably knock off 95!
>> :-) 
>> Go for it lad, no sweat! :-)
>> 
>> On my 80th birthday day before our celebrating family group during an
>> outdoor BD party.
>> 
>> I flopped down and did 80 sit-ups which at the beginning my several
>> grandchildren, upper teens and into their twenties were having fits I was
>> going to kill myself because some of them admitted they couldn't do 10.
>> :-)
>> 
>> Then  they started making bets on whether I'd make it or not. By the time
>> I 
>> hit 60 they cancelled all bets and started to chant out the numbers and
>> cheering me on! By now every guest was watching and either telling me to
>> stop or cheering to keep it up!
>> 
>> I reached the 80 mark with hardly an effort! Everyone was cheering. I sat
>> up 
>> and did one more.... "then offered the grandsons this word of advice....
>> "Boys that extra one is too show you, if you get out of line, Grandpa can
>> still kick - ass!!!! " :-) To an even greater amount of cheering! Then I
>> stood-up and drank a fairly good sized single malt scotch to a loud hail
>> of 
>> "Cheers G-pa!" All glasses held on high! :-)
>> 
>> If one kills them selves exercising it's quite simple really.... They're
>> idiots and pushing themselves beyond their limits.
>> 
>> The key is, do something  every day whatever you find comfortable and do
>> it 
>> every day! Better twice a day if possible! Heck even ten sit-ups is a
>> starter!
>> 
>> I hear people say... "I don't have time to exercise!" Quite frankly
>> that's a 
>> pile of cow dung! People find time to eat and sleep. And yes to sit and
>> watch the idiot box while knocking back a few. So don't anyone tell me
>> they 
>> don't have time for a 15 minute walk around the block every single day,
>> sun, 
>> rain or snowing!
>> 
>> If it's Genetics that allows us to last longer that's great, but maybe?
>> Just 
>> maybe a walk around the block every day may make all the difference in
>> the 
>> world between 19 and 95! Regardless of genetics?
>> 
>> My plan is, I fully intend to die on my 100th birthday day! That's after
>> I've completed 100 sit-ups. :-) Now that's the plan and I've got 17 years
>> for training! No reason I wont make it! Anyone want to make a bet? ;-)
>> 
>> Well what the hell, I did my first and only solo parachute jump a day or
>> two 
>> after my 65th birthday just because I'd always wondered what it would be
>> like? Fabulous by the way! :-)
>> 
>> On the 76th BD day, I flew about the sky doing all kinds of wild and
>> crazy 
>> dog fights in  a P51 Mustang simply because it was a lifetime dream!!!!
>> And 
>> loved every second of it! Why not ? It's a beautiful feeling to love life!
>> 
>> Chris it isn't the exercising that will kill you......... IT'S THE LACK
>> OF 
>> DOING IT THAT WILL KILL YOU!
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Dr. ted :-)
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Chris Crawford OFFERED:
>> 
>> <
>>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I think that health and long life are largely luck. Genetics play a
>>>> huge
>>>> role, and I'm not sure that killing yourself exercising or eating foods
>>>> you don't like make much difference. I loved visiting my great-grandpa
>>>> when I was a kid. He always had a gigantic bowl of candy on his kitchen
>>>> table, and if my mom complained about me eating too much of it, he told
>>>> her to shut up and quit bitching, then he'd give me another piece!
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>> 
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