Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Actually, I have used Leica glass. I've had two different 50mm Summicrons and a 35mm Summicron. I still have the version 4 50mm summicron, but I sold the 35 Summicron. It wasn?t as good as the ZM C-Biogon I use now. The 50mm Summicron is an excellent lens, but in real-life use on 35mm film, it really doesn't give better photos than the 50mm f1.4 Olympus lens I also use. If you used Tech Pan, a tripod, etc. and made huge prints, the Summicron is a little sharper. I don't shoot like that, and neither does any other real-world 35mm camera user. Bottom line, my cheap Mamiya 645 gives sharper images with its 80mm f1.9 Mamiya lens than I get with the 50 Summicron on 35mm film. -- Chris Crawford Fine Art Photography Fort Wayne, Indiana 260-437-8990 http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 Become a fan on Facebook On 6/13/12 11:49 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >Erins books are so successful and his advice so sought after because he is >not uncritically praising Leica. As no one would have any time for that. >He is not in general put to task on his integrity. >Mainly it only comes from handful of idiots on this list. >I do not agree with everything Erwin says. >I've met him and communicated with him in the past. >And I've used many of the lenes he's reviewed and time and time again >discussed. I've made large darkroom prints from them on a calibrated >enlarger with quality enlarging glass. And seen them projected with >quality >(Leica) glass. My results and experience with Leica glass and cameras >mainly >agrees with his. 98% Which is why he has my respect. And the respect of >the >photographic community as a whole. > >Have you read his book? >Have you used Leica glass? > >- - from my iRabs. >Mark Rabiner >http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > >> From: Chris Crawford <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 23:30:22 -0400 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M Monochrom >> >> Mark, >> >> Erwin and you both worship Leica as though it were the messiah. People >> wouldn't question his credibility if he did not uncritically praise >> anything Leica, while dissing anything else, no matter how good. >> >> If you want to compare to Jayanand's work, it would be as though a >>writer >> for the Wall Street Journal constantly praised a single mutual fund >> company as though its products were the only thing worth investing in, >> regardless of the company's fund's actual performance, while putting >>down >> even funds that outperform his chosen company's funds. If he did that, >>it >> would be considered dishonest and the government would investigate to >>see >> if he was taking bribes or kickbacks...because that is typically why >> someone is so uncritically praising of something in the business world. >> >> -- >> Chris Crawford >> Fine Art Photography >> Fort Wayne, Indiana >> 260-437-8990 >> >> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >> >> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! >> >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >> Become a fan on Facebook >> >> >> >> On 6/13/12 11:16 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: >> >>> Edwin Puts was on the LUG for many years and many of us will personally >>> vouch for his integrity. Which of course needs none. He is a recognized >>> optical expert. Is known to at times shoot with Canon cameras and >>>lenes. >>> And >>> deserves to not have his professional integrity put to question or >>> otherwise >>> casually thrown up for grabs. >>> Just as much as you'd not deserve to have your broker professionalism >>> casually thrown up for grabs by a bunch of financial trading dabblers.. >>> >>> - - from my iRabs. >>> Mark Rabiner >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >>> >>> >>>> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:53:51 +0530 >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M Monochrom >>>> >>>> When are we going to get some independent reviewers to test this baby? >>>> Leica seems to be very careful in whom it gives test cameras/lenses >>>>to, >>>> in >>>> order not to take risks in the news flow, and keep it unfailingly >>>> positive! >>>> Edwin Puts is by no stretch of the imagination an independent >>>>reviewer - >>>> how do his views matter at all, because even if he is right, how do we >>>> know >>>> that it is so? Not worth reading at this present time - maybe later >>>>for >>>> an >>>> insight or two after reading a few independent reviews. >>>> Cheers >>>> Jayanand >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:39 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jono Slack's was with present(ish) glass - 50mm Summilux asph, 75mm >>>>> APO-Summicron and 90mm Elmarit-M. >>>>> >>>>> A test to see at what magnification the 50mm APO-Summicron asph >>>>>betters >>>>> the Summilux asph would be useful, if little difference in 16" x 24" >>>>> what >>>>> is the need? >>>>> >>>>> Puts has just added to his blog >>>>> http://www.imx.nl/photo/optics/styled-5/chromatic.html >>>>> >>>>> john >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Everyone is using the new 50. I wonder how it performs with the >>>>>other >>>>> present day and past Leica glass. >>>>> >>>>> Aram >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> For those interested. Of course, Forbes Magazine likes it (-: >>>>>> >>>>>> As for me, I am waiting for someone who takes part in Print >>>>>>Exchanges >>>>>> to >>>>>> buy it, so I can see a print of a photo taken with it! >>>>>> >>>>>> www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-news/2012/05/leica-m-monochrom-links/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Jayanand >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information