Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/16
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I've been to their place in Solms and seen the remnants at Wetzlar. Also there is a thing Called Leica New York, used to be or still is Roger Horn. Which is of course in New Jersey. Which is where the main US office is. Leica Camera Agency Our local Leica Camera operation can answer your questions about our products, in the local language, naturally. Leica Camera Inc. 1 Pearl Ct, Unit A Allendale, New Jersey 07401 : Phone 800-222-0118 Fax: 201-995-1686 - - from my iRabs. Mark Rabiner http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > From: Jefffery Smith <jsmith342 at gmail.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 19:19:53 -0500 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Why Leica is opening up so many stores > > It would be wonderful to have a brick and mortar entity where one could > take > their defective camera and actually not be blown off completely. While it's > possible (perhaps probable) that they will have a security guard escort you > out, at least there would be human interaction of some sort. > > I could even be persuaded to buy an M?.what number are they up to now? > > Regards, > > Jeffery > _________________ > Jeffery Smith > Irish Channel, New Orleans, LA > www.400tx.com > > > > On Jun 16, 2012, at 7:15 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote: > >> Some people appreciate having and using the best and with finance it >> anyway >> they can. >> Maybe not super rich you can take a long time to pay off a Mercedes. And >> you can drive one for a long time. >> There are people apparently such as yourself who seem to always just want >> to >> spend less finding something a little similar and cheaper. >> A Chevy will also get you to the supermarket. >> For every premium product there is a mid price option and often a low >> price >> option. All kinds of options. Pick your price point. A Chevy cost what a >> Chevy cost; not what a Mercedes cost and for real logical reasons. >> Anybody with an interest in Leica knows that its been a premium product >> for >> a long long time. You don't save money getting one. >> Leica is not here to make you happy. >> We'd love it if we could have a new M10 for 3 grand. If an X2 cost 80o >> bucks. I'd be happy. Leica would be broke. >> I think Leica needs to stay happy doing what its been doing for a long >> long >> time. Making a second to none premium product in smaller amounts at a >> premium price. I does do a thing with Panasonic putting their name on it >> and >> selling them at much cheaper prices than an M. >> >> >> >> - - from my iRabs. >> Mark Rabiner >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >> >> >>> From: Douglas Nygren <douglasnygren at yahoo.com> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:54:35 -0700 (PDT) >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Why Leica is opening up so many stores >>> >>> Leica thinks it can be like Apple and have stand alone stores. >>> Maybe it can, but they Leica isn't Apple. Apple had a big >>> followingbefore it >>> started to run its own stores. >>> While Leica may have lost dealers, it's hard to imagine a dealer buying >>> into >>> the Leica system. What does that cost, half a million?Is there that much >>> profit in new cameras? No. The win is in sellingused Leica gear.Dealers >>> traditionally carry a broader range of product than just one line.In New >>> York, >>> a dealer may be able to make it with one line of cameras,namely Leica. >>> But >>> can >>> a dealer in Cincinnati make it that way? >>> Given the giant leap in Leica prices, how many of us are going to buy new >>> Leica gear? That means Leica is going to have to develop a newmarket--one >>> beyond the collectors who have one of everything Leica foreach of their >>> homes. >>> People like us, I assume, will be lured away by camera manufacturerswho >>> produce a great product in range finder form. Think Fuji. Think the xpro >>> 2. >>> As I've written here before, as Leica increaes its prices, it opens >>> itself >>> up >>> to be undersold: Fuji, Olympus, Sony come to mind. >>> Then again, maybe Leica isn't thinking long-term. Maybe it's just >>> thinking >>> American, which is to say short-term. Drive up the prices, increase >>> profit >>> margins, look good on paper, make an IOP killings and cash in. >>> Leica might reply: howwash. We sell everything we make in a bad economy. >>> Think >>> what it will be like, wenn alles wieder in Butter ist, when everything is >>> good >>> again. They may have a point. >>> I'd feel better about their future if lurking in the wings was an >>> autofocus >>> M >>> with movie capability. Who know, maybe there is. Who knows, maybe they >>> will >>> introduce a mini M to sell to consumers the way Canon and Nikon does. >>> They >>> may >>> have "miracle" products in the pipeline, but given their history of >>> trailing >>> the market, this may be more than a fantasy. >>> For me, Leica is bcoming less interesting while Fuji is becoming more >>> interesting. The new Nikon catches my eye as does the Canon 5D Mark III >>> with >>> its high ISOs and silent mode. As it is, the M9 sounds noisy to me like >>> the >>> SLRs of yore. >>> It just seems to me Leica is no longer looking to photographers to buy >>> its >>> product. It is becoming a fashion statement. Pity is how many >>> fashionistas >>> will appreciate what fine glass they posses. >>> MFG-Doug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information