Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/08/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]John I'd add that one of the things emerging from the early testers is that the contrast range from camera looks so different and developing will need to be learned, just like for any new spophisticated tool. From the DNG samples availble from the L Camera Forum the detail and possibilities in developing are hugely promising. Now I know 3 great shooters with one and I have padlocked my Mastercard! Cheers, Geoff http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman On 1 September 2012 15:30, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: > I know the JPEG output is flatter then the DNG, I have said that. It is > difficult to show them on the web as 36MB DNGs (as well(as precluding any > essential post-prod work), and it is the web that we are talking about > rather than prints. Several people have requested the DNG files but you are > not one of them. > > Take http://johnmcmaster.com/Monochrom/Day_2/content/L2000195_large.htmlor > http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2012/35/content/L2000180_large.html as an > example, do they look flat on your monitor? > > If so I think the problem could be at your end........ > > A shot like > http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2012/35/content/L2000185_large.html shows the > subtle greys which I have not seen with most converted colour shots. To me > it has dark shadows behind the holes and highlights down vertical cement > line in lower left but is predominantly mid-tone. > > Do things always have to be very high in contrast? I come from a full > tonal range medium/large format background rather than uprated/underexposed > 35mm Tri-X so maybe different expectations? Personally I rarely wanted > blacks (zone 0) in my prints and worked hard to keep them in zones I-III. > > Or is this just a little envy emanating from New York? > > john > > -----Original Message----- > > They look like what you get back from Walgreens. > Machine prints. Flat. No blacks. No snap. > A lot of people with tens of thousands of dollars in photo gear go the > contact sheet custom print route or they print it themselves. Images are > judged critically. And adjusted often also locally adjusted - just making > the images look right with all the detail there which should be there. > In most cases it takes a minute. A tricky one two minutes. An easy one 30 > seconds. > The problem is you have to lift your little finger.. > > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > > > After years of working^^^clicking with black and white film the > > Monochrom images are pleasantly similar looking, far better than I > > have managed with converted colour images. > > > > john > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > I meant to add that "tree" reminds me of my Tri-X in 1972, and that's > > a good thing. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > Jeffery L. Smith > > > > On Aug 31, 2012, at 14:50, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote: > > > >> After working solely on Monochrom images for a couple of days it was > >> a pleasant surprise to see the colour ones from earlier in the week > >> ;-) > >> > >> Again, none of the Monochrom shots have been tweaked just a web > >> export from LR.... > >> > >> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2012/35/ > >> > >> C & C welcome > >> > >> john > >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >