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Subject: [Leica] Color vs B&W
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:24:24 -0500

" A caricature is a portrait that exaggerates or distorts the essence of a
person, animal or object to create an easily identifiable visual likeness. "
The internet

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Ric Carter <ricc at embarqmail.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 19:35:49 -0500
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Color vs B&W
> 
> When you choose to do a black and white version of what someone looks like,
> and you decide to throw away all color information because it is not 
> important
> to YOU,
> you have simplified what that person is
> it is a caricature
> 
> a good caricature can tell you much about an individual, but is not
> necessarily better for the purpose
> 
> Emanuel's first post was NOT to say that color was superior--nor are any 
> of my
> comments meant that way.
> 
> What I was saying is that I tire of the idea held by some that black and 
> white
> is naturally superior.
> I believe that is wrong--we can talk all day about why we prefer one or the
> other--there are lots of reasons to find--the period of my upbringing and 
> my
> budget when I was learning photography for instance
> 
> prefer which ever you like, just do not tell me that your (collective not
> personal) opinion is an innate fact of life
> 
> I love my world in color--I like both you color and B&W pictures
> 
> maybe I'm just dogma averse
> 
> ric
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 12, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:
> 
>> Caricature?  So any photos made before color film was available are
>> caricatures?  I don't get that.
>> 
>> I love B&W photography.  It *sometimes** *turns a snapshot into art by
>> reducing the content to form and composition which could be a type of
>> caricature but not under the usual definition of oversimplification or
>> satirical content.   Unless the photo is flowers, sunsets, sports, or
>> wildlife, I almost always prefer B&W over color.  Would Salgado's photos 
>> be
>> as effective in color?  He is photographing currently and has the choice. 
>> I
>> guess we are all different and have different opinions!
>> 
>> Standing up for B&W here, surprised to have to do that on a Leica list!
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Ric Carter <ricc at embarqmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> and turning them into B&W caricature shows them how the photographer
>>> thinks they are
>>> 
>>> ric
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Ric Carter <ricc at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> how is that NOT how they are?
>>>> 
>>>> it seems to me precisely how they are
>>>> 
>>>> ric
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> occurs to me this concerns how they want to be seen, not how they are.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>> www.tinamanley.com
>> 
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