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Subject: [Leica] Politically Incorrect terminology
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 00:16:07 +0530
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Bill,
George is being sarcastic.
Cheers
Jayanand


On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:58 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:

> Wow, George, this is really off the mark. I come from a  era where pretty
> did not carry any sexual connotation, and my friends of younger ages don't
> really ever use the term.
>
> I have become more concerned with our use of language in the USA. I feel
> that vocabularies are shrinking and terminology becomes more imprecise,
> such as the current use of the word shading when vignetting is more
> correct. I think that results from poorly educated and trained
> photographers becoming internet reviewers, where there is no editor, and
> just making up words to describe things.
>
> There are many terms that have come up in this discussion that for many
> years simply described gender. Calling a girl pretty narrows that down a
> bit, but wince when is it wrong to say a pretty woman is pretty? There is
> no sexual connotation other than one that appears in your mind, of your own
> doing. Don't transfer your personal problems on all others.
>
> And face it. If you don't want others making such comments in whatever
> vein they prefer, don't put the damn photo on the internet. And to say that
> I should not photograph girls, pretty or otherwise, is putting yourself in
> a position of authority to which you are not qualified. You sound
> disturbingly like today's "Helicopter Parents."
>
> This subject has degraded at every turn to utter foolishness from people
> putting themselves on their high horse. Get off and end this.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: George Lottermoser
> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:44 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Politically Incorrect terminology
>
>
> I think "pretty" overly sexualizes the comment. What if this human being
> was your daughter? Do you really want men on the Internet looking at her
> picture? saying, "pretty"? Straight men should not create, look at, or
> comment on photographs of female human beings - each of which is
> potentially a daughter, sister or mother of a strong self righteous man who
> must protect them.
>
> a note off the iPad, George
>
> On Jul 4, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Just came back from a round of golf, and sure enough, the link worked.
>> Very
>> nice photograph of a pretty person (is that statement bland enough for the
>> cultural police?)  (-:
>>
>
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