Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/01/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Not a fair comparison; that M (type 240) was not feeling well that day? ;-) On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>wrote: > Yes the M9 (and the other M's) firmware (assuming coding) is correcting the > images for vignette and colour cast (red edge or 'Italian flag' effects). > There's quite a lot going on to make the images homogenous at all actually. > The level of correction was amended over the M9 firmware versions too. What > the M cameras don't do is apply any distortion correction (or have any > options for dynamic range for example). > Adobe's raw processing has made large strides as well. The new tools are > great for managing this, as are some plug ins too. > > There's much more to the visibility of noise than just the ISO number of > course. Content, exposure decisions, contrast, developing choices etc etc. > Low light may or may not be good light. > > M9 1000 ISO > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/148037826 > and the M (typ 240) 2000 ISO > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/153865387 > > > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > On 31 December 2013 17:44, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote: > > > How RAW is RAW? That is, can an M9 play games with the DNG out of the > > camera? When I first got my M9 (not going to look up the year but it?s > > dated by the fact the LR2 came with it), shots taken at 1600 or over were > > horribly grainy, and even LR couldn?t really fix them. Today, shots at > > those speeds are not bad, and by the time LR gets through with them, > there > > is nothing to complain about. Is Leica?s upgraded firmware working > miracles? > > > > Herbert Kanner > > kanner at acm.org > > 650-326-8204 > > > > Question authority and the authorities will question you. > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 29, 2013, at 6:48 PM, tedgrant at shaw.ca wrote: > > > > > Hi crew, :-) > > > The address is..... "Leica M @ 3200!" > > > > > > I thought , "Holy cow I remember setting my Leica's for ASA 3200 and > the > > first thoughts were??????? "OH MY GOSH THE GRAIN IS GOING TO BE BRICK > SIZE! > > :-) > > > > > > And I'll probably throw most of them away? And yes the odd time that > was > > the case! :-( > > > Bloody awful actually! :-) Maybe my development added to the grain > size! > > :-) > > > > > > TODAY? WOW! A COMPLETELY NEW BALL GAME THROUGH ADVANCEMENT OF > > TECHNOLOGIES!! We see skin near, if not as beautiful as ASA Plus X or > > finer! I think the older, more mature folks actually will recognize this > > factor quicker than many younger members? Maybe? > > > > > > However? I envy the youth of today.... Yea OK some of the elder folks > as > > well as they use these new wonder cameras shooting B&W! AWESOME! quite > > frankly to say the least! > > > > > > Aw the wonders of technical advancements and ass tiring of the ages! > :-( > > > > > > cheers, > > > Dr. ted! :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> > > > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 2:24 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] M @ 3200 > > > > > > > > > That's what it's for!!!!!! > > > And if you select the 'sharpen for faces' (capture sharpening) preset > you > > > will see an excellent example of how well it works. > > > Set your capture sharpening first then apply the noise reduction. They > > are > > > inter-related. > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > Geoff > > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > > > > > > On 30 December 2013 08:18, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Wow, I didn't notice the Mask setting in the LR Sharpen tool, now I > > have to > > >> check it out. > > >> > > >> So looks like higher the mask value, only the edges will be sharpened. > > >> GREAT! > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Herb. Thanks. > > >>> I use the Sharpening tool in LR5 develop module. I set the radius to > > 0.9, > > >>> hold the Alt/Option key while sliding the mask slider to see what i > > want > > >> to > > >>> sharpen (shows in white on the image being worked on). For skin > tones, > > I > > >>> tend to not sharpen the skin (all black on the screen). Then move the > > >>> amount, luminosity and contrast sliders until grain starts to appear > > >>> (moving back and forth in large swings and bracketing to small > > distances > > >> is > > >>> very helpful). > > >>> That's about it. > > >>> For prints I use NIK? > > >>> So the short answer is yes, but this won't work with severe noise. I > > tend > > >>> to do this process with every image... > > >>> Hope that helps, > > >>> Bob > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> > > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Impressive! Is my assumption that you did some noise reduction > > correct? > > >>>> Herbert Kanner > > >>>> kanner at acm.org > > >>>> 650-326-8204 > > >>>> > > >>>> Question authority and the authorities will question you. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:34 PM, Bob Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> I dunno. I think the M @ 3200 has tolerable noise... > > >>>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com/2013-12-28-Remes-Sinton/index.html > > >>>>> > > >>>>> My grand nephew (who rarely stops moving) and grand niece. > > >>>>> Best, > > >>>>> Bob > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sent from my iPad > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> Leica Users Group. > > >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Leica Users Group. > > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Bob Adler > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Leica Users Group. > > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > >> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Leica Users Group. > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > -- Bob Adler